brightn'ove
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24 red cards in a real madrid shirt.
TWENTY FOUR.
p.s. don't think he should be retrospectively punished, it is what it is. Liverpool lost, they need to get over it really. That bale goal was worthy of winning anything.
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[Football] Salah/Ramos: Not sure this is going away.
- Thread starter Bob'n'weave
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24 red cards in a real madrid shirt.
TWENTY FOUR.
p.s. don't think he should be retrospectively punished, it is what it is. Liverpool lost, they need to get over it really. That bale goal was worthy of winning anything.
Not Andy Naylor
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He may not be a brute of a centre half out to hurt people, but you have to admit he does a decent impersonation of one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCb91vCh5Eg
Sussex Nomad
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I can't stand Ramos, horrible, dirty little sob. Reminds me of Latin players, mainly Italians of the past. However you can go out to break a leg, you cannot go out to dislocate someone's shoulder, but I am certain he wanted to take him out.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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No Liverpool fan here, I just detest everything Real Madrid stand for, hell I'd possibly even support Palace against them...possibly.
No idea why you have beef with a Spanish side. I could understand it if it was Man Utd or Chelsea etc. Never knew Brighton have history with Madrid.
Nah, closet Red Cheeky. As for Palace thing you said that's just pathetic.
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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I'm pretty sure you are right, Salah was always going to be targeted with some special attention in order to put him off his game, Ramos cynically pulled him over and got a better than hoped for result. You can clearly see Ramos " Lock on " to Salah's arm then wrench him over as he falls.
For gods sake grow a pair. Players get roughed up all the time or targeted. Seriously deal with it. Non Liverpool fans will see Ramos doing a job. It happens. Fulham roughe'd up Grealish. It's football.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Spence, I was in the paint aisle in Homebase, Lewes yesterday and I said to the guy standing next to me: "Is this undercoat any good?" He just nodded and grunted. Unconvinced, I asked his other half, who was stood on the other side of him, for her opinion. Her reply? "I second that emulsion." You honestly couldn't have made it up!
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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Calm down dear and stop squealing, I know " it's Football ", doesn't necessarily mean its right.
If I were a Liverpool fan i’d be asking why their beloved main man cried off so easily when there was actually no serious injury. I thought at the time there was no dislocation and it’s since been confirmed, and sure enough he will be fully fit for the World Cup. This seems to have been glossed over.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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I imagine it was a balance issue. When I knackered my shoulder after a bicycle crash I got straight back on the bike, thinking I was fine, cycled off and almost immediately came off the bike again.
- Jan 3, 2012
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But it wasn't dealt with by the referee - not adequately, anyway.
I heard Frank Lampard comment at half time that these things will happen when people get "intertwined". But for me and everyone I was watching it with it was Ramos who was doing all the intertwining, which seemed to be borne out by seeing it replayed several times, and all the still pictures in the papers on Sunday. My daughter described it as a judo throw. Nasty and cynical and deliberate.
- Jan 3, 2012
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In the first 20 minutes or so with Salah on the pitch, Liverpool dominated the game and all the possession and shots stats backed that up. When he went off, all that changed. Taking him out made a huge difference.
There were 4 people watching the match in our house, three of whom are professed Liverpool haters and wanted Real Madrid to win before the match started. That incident changed their minds.
drew
Drew
I'm not saying he thought knew he would dislocate his shoulder, just that by falling and twisting the way he did he could strain something and slow him down or even get him substituted.
Bob'n'weave
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Bevendean Hillbilly
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He didn’t dislocate his shoulder he dropped his acromioclavicular junction. This is a bit of bone that attaches to the end of the clavicle and it sits, literally, in a bundle of nerve endings.
I’m telling you that putting that joint out hurts like hades. You have what feels like massive electric shocks down the affected side. You would do well to breathe...let alone play football.
If you don’t understand anatomy and physiology you have no opinion. Seriously. None.
Try it yourself before calling lightweight.
Oh...and by the way...Ramos has done that before, causing the same injury...coincidence....? No.
I’m telling you that putting that joint out hurts like hades. You have what feels like massive electric shocks down the affected side. You would do well to breathe...let alone play football.
If you don’t understand anatomy and physiology you have no opinion. Seriously. None.
Try it yourself before calling lightweight.
Oh...and by the way...Ramos has done that before, causing the same injury...coincidence....? No.
Megazone
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sussex_guy2k2
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I’m not blaming the keeper and I agree re Salah. You could feel the game shift the moment he went off and they became too predictable offensively. But that’s not surprising as that squad should never have been near a Champions League final - they’ve massively overachieved!
I still think people are overreacting re going to the keeper. That pretty much never happens after a keeper makes a mistake. These are professionals after all - they are paid handsomely and brought up to put these mistakes behind them within an instant, especially goalkeepers. A pep talk does nothing if the person making the mistake isn’t the type who stews on their mistakes. And if they are that type, they probably shouldn’t be playing football at that level, let alone in goal. Plus, the second mistake was a simple technical error, one of which Liverpool’s goalkeepers have been suffering from for a number of years. It suggests that poor coaching is the reason for that mistake, and no amount of pep talk gets around a technical error.