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[Football] 'Top flight needs Villa vibrancy' Stan Collymore.
- Thread starter lawros left foot
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Other than winning the league 2 generations ago (1972 and 1975), Derby aren’t today a big club. The catchment area is small and they do well to consistently have crowds in the mid-20,000’s.
Collymore is simply a Villa fan, so randomly bunged in the names of other clubs, to mask his bias as an ‘reasoned argument’.
Collymore is simply a Villa fan, so randomly bunged in the names of other clubs, to mask his bias as an ‘reasoned argument’.
Small clubs don't average 30k with 8k on the waiting list. We could quite easily fill a 40k stadium against most Premier league clubs. Who could boast that ? It's our history that lets us down not support
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Villa had been perennial space wasters in the Premier League for years. Granted they have an enviable heritage but that all ended around 1982 as far as I can tell. Also I don't like them 
Come on Fulham 
Come on Fulham 
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Only 6 clubs have ever achieved the Three in a Row.
Preston North End – 1891, 1892, 1893
Manchester United – 1947, 1948, 1949
Leeds United – 1970, 1971,1972
Huddersfield Town – 1924, 1925, 1926
Arsenal – 1933, 1934, 1935
Liverpool – 1982, 1983, 1984
Colonel Angus
New member
They are all more deserving of a PL place than Palace.
mikeyjh
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Quite a dark and disturbing individual is Collymore, I've tried to sympathise and understand his issues with mental health but it is difficult.
He is, of course, correct about the Rams' impending and triumphant return to the big time.
He is, of course, correct about the Rams' impending and triumphant return to the big time.
el punal
Well-known member
Good point. I suppose it’s when other Premier League players/fans stop saying “No disrespect but we should be beating teams like . . . .” (Insert team of choice).
A history not caused by the fans. A broke/tight Board in the 80’s that always sold our best players for knockdown prices, followed by someone with eyes only for a $$$$ freehold.
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
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....are they resurrecting the Inter Toto cup?
Didn’t Arsenal win the 1971 title and Derby in 1972?
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
I think a club's history also has a lot to do with how big or small a club is perceived to be though, it isn't solely about the number of fans that go through the turnstiles.
It amazes me Gillingham isn't better supported being the only professional Kent club.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Correct.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Of the 6 lowest Prem points totals of all-time, 5 were achieved by a "big" club - Sunderland (3 times), Villa and Derby. Only Portsmouth let the small clubs down and that was only down to their financial bubble bursting.
Collymore is being very selective about who is and who isn't a 'big' club. He's picked some clubs that were decent in the 70s and 80s but smaller, more historic clubs like Bolton, Blackburn and Charlton have all played more Prem matches than Derby or Forest.
And to the new, global fans of the Prem then Leicester, Burnley and Palace are a bigger deal than the likes of Forest, Derby and Wolves.
As for small clubs rolling over and having their tummies tickled the top 6 regularly get embarrassed by the promoted Championship sides and those fighting relegation.
Collymore is being very selective about who is and who isn't a 'big' club. He's picked some clubs that were decent in the 70s and 80s but smaller, more historic clubs like Bolton, Blackburn and Charlton have all played more Prem matches than Derby or Forest.
And to the new, global fans of the Prem then Leicester, Burnley and Palace are a bigger deal than the likes of Forest, Derby and Wolves.
As for small clubs rolling over and having their tummies tickled the top 6 regularly get embarrassed by the promoted Championship sides and those fighting relegation.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
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I wonder if Collymore thought Leicester were a big club before 202015-2016?
Bevendean Hillbilly
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Ah yes. Wife beating, putin noshing AND ******* on some geezers car in a wood.
What a prick.