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[Football] 'Top flight needs Villa vibrancy' Stan Collymore.



el punal

Well-known member
Ah! The Championship, the eternal graveyard of the BIG clubs who, ahem!, should be in the Premier League. The likes of Aston Villa, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Sunderland . . . wait a minute, didn’t they? Anyway, has it not occurred to these arrogant idiots that these these clubs have been run so appallingly badly that they deserve to be exactly where they are.

On the other hand, the SMALL clubs that have managed their affairs admirably both on and off the pitch, the clubs that are not privileged, the clubs that do not feel that the football world owes them a living, are the ones that have grafted, played good football and earned the their just reward - a place in the top tier of English football.

So tough bananas Mr.Collymore, and the rest of you that think big is beautiful, wake up and smell the burger and fried onions! It is the clubs that are well run, from top to bottom, pay and play within their means, are the the successful ones. Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it!
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,673
Worthing
Small clubs “cheap to buy”

Leeds, 5 owners since 2003

Forest, 3 owners since 2003

Derby, 4 owners since 2003

Villa, 3 owners since 2003

BHAFC, 1 owner since 1997
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,840
Worthing
Ah! The Championship, the eternal graveyard of the BIG clubs who, ahem!, should be in the Premier League. The likes of Aston Villa, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Sunderland . . . wait a minute, didn’t they? Anyway, has it not occurred to these arrogant idiots that these these clubs have been run so appallingly badly that they deserve to be exactly where they are.

On the other hand, the SMALL clubs that have managed their affairs admirably both on and off the pitch, the clubs that are not privileged, the clubs that do not feel that the football world owes them a living, are the ones that have grafted, played good football and earned the their just reward - a place in the top tier of English football.

So tough bananas Mr.Collymore, and the rest of you that think big is beautiful, wake up and smell the burger and fried onions! It is the clubs that are well run, from top to bottom, pay and play within their means, are the the successful ones. Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it!

At what point can a small* club convert to a medium or big club? Is there a qualification period?

* small = not historically a Premier/ 1st Division club
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,102
Sussex by the Sea
Three 'kids' seated behind us at Villa Park started the small club/big club - no history thang after we enjoyed the Villa goal disallowed last week.

Decided to ignore the taunts, no need. A smug grin sufficed.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
" The Premier League as a brand needs Aston Villa and other big clubs like Leeds, Nottingham Forest, and Derby.
We are being overloaded with smaller clubs that have sneaked into the Premier League, are cheap to buy, and have low expectations.
They get to the top flight and then roll over and have their bellies tickled by the big sides.
Yeah, because Derby wouldn't roll over and have their belly tickled, oh no.
 




Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,395
**** villa , bring on Fulham

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middletoenail

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Jul 2, 2008
3,570
Hong Kong
I remember several years ago, Collymore pushing the idea that relegation from the premier league should be abolished, or something similar - of course this was when Villa were still there.

I think he's haunted by the fact that when he joined his 'boyhood club', he failed miserably and didn't apply himself as a professional footballer. Prick.
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,674
Location Location
Small clubs “cheap to buy”

Leeds, 5 owners since 2003

Forest, 3 owners since 2003

Derby, 4 owners since 2003

Villa, 3 owners since 2003

BHAFC, 1 owner since 1997

Not quite. Tony Bloom took over from DK in 2009 (albeit Dick never described himself as the owner).
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,674
Location Location
Surely that should be against PL rules?

Contracts are between clubs and players to draw up, can't see how it'd be against any rules. Similar to when a player arrives on loan - the clubs decide between themselves whether that player will be allowed to play against his parent club or not.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,674
Location Location
If I was going to produce a list of words I associate with Aston Villa, 'vibrancy' would be one of the last I'd choose. Of all the clubs who have spent a significant amount of time in the PL in the last 10-15 years there surely hasn't been one as dull, unimaginative and tedious as Villa. Perhaps Sunderland is the only other club that comes to mind as offering absolutely nothing to the party, but I'd still say I'd rather have watched them most seasons over Villa. Boring club, boring fans, boring location, boring football. Even in the Championship, with the benefit of spending obscene amounts compared to their rivals, they've continued to serve up remarkably unattractive football.

I'd probably add Middlesbrough to your criteria there.

Perhaps Villa's one saving grace is their splendid stadium.
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,486
Brighton
Two points.
If the FA Cup was seeded, where would the likes of Villa and Leeds be put.
And will Terry wear a Chelsea shirt under his Villa shirt should they play each other?
Come on Fulham
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I now want Fulham to roll over the entitled Villa even more. Collymore is a girlfriend beating, dogging ****.and was also a complete and utter mercenary as a player. **** him.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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NSC Patreon
Jul 24, 2007
10,165
Arundel
“Stan the Man” should stick to his specialist subjects, wife beating and Putin noshing. If he means Brighton (we’re a small club btw) don’t deserve to be in the PL and that we must have Villa instead as they’re a “big club” then his opinion is laughable. Football is a meritocracy. End of.

You missed dogging
 


Uter

Well-known member
Aug 5, 2008
1,474
The land of chocolate
Contracts are between clubs and players to draw up, can't see how it'd be against any rules. Similar to when a player arrives on loan - the clubs decide between themselves whether that player will be allowed to play against his parent club or not.

Premier League rules mean a loan player is not permitted to play against the club that holds their registration (permitted in cup games however AIUI).
 






spence

British and Proud
Oct 15, 2014
9,811
Crawley
I'd probably add Middlesbrough to your criteria there.

Perhaps Villa's one saving grace is their splendid stadium.

The Villa team of the 70's were a delight to watch.
 



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