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[Sussex] monks farm planning



Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,719
Hove
It would seem that , were this IKEA proposal approved , that yours and all residents within this area would have a diminished quality of life , either by much increased traffic passing through your residential area , or restricted access by your own vehicles ,plus increased traffic on the main trunk road ,My son was considering going to your local college on boundstone lane , which we decided against , almost exclusively due to the volume of traffic on the A27 ...

If only more people would cycle.:thumbsup:
 




Uter

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Aug 5, 2008
1,474
The land of chocolate
I do live on said potential rat run. AFAIK said rat run will be closed off after construction although still usable for a bus route so I have no idea how that will be monitored

A "bus gate", i.e. an automatic rising bollard, but only once the IKEA opens or the second phase of housing is built.
 




wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
13,585
Melbourne
It would seem that , were this IKEA proposal approved , that yours and all residents within this area would have a diminished quality of life , either by much increased traffic passing through your residential area , or restricted access by your own vehicles ,plus increased traffic on the main trunk road ,My son was considering going to your local college on boundstone lane , which we decided against , almost exclusively due to the volume of traffic on the A27 ...

Not quality of education then?
 






McTavish

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Nov 5, 2014
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I do live on said potential rat run. AFAIK said rat run will be closed off after construction although still usable for a bus route so I have no idea how that will be monitored

Probably something like this:
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
9,756
saaf of the water
Very,very surprised that Labour Councillors spoke against the plan.

After all the Labour Party wants to build a million new homes, and 'will be building at least 100,000 council and housing association homes a year for genuinely affordable rent or sale' (last year's manifesto)

Where exactly do they indeed to build them if not places like this?

The same Labour Councillor also proposed rejection on the grounds of 'the effect on Lancing College.' I never knew the Labour Party was so protective of private education.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,719
Hove
Very,very surprised that Labour Councillors spoke against the plan.

After all the Labour Party wants to build a million new homes, and 'will be building at least 100,000 council and housing association homes a year for genuinely affordable rent or sale' (last year's manifesto)

Where exactly do they indeed to build them if not places like this?

The same Labour Councillor also proposed rejection on the grounds of 'the effect on Lancing College.' I never knew the Labour Party was so protective of private education.

I think the 'vote for this = not getting elected again' sways some councillor's minds in these situations. Not like a party whip turns up to pull them inline behind policy.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
The planning committee has moved to defer the decision on the grounds that Ikea was unable to comply with how its development can protect the environment. Developers are asked to come back with a more detailed plan on how its proposal will enhance the environment.
Further, the committee asks developers to meet with Lancing College to discuss how the development will not impact on the school.
The council has not confirmed a date for the next meeting.


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Very,very surprised that Labour Councillors spoke against the plan.

After all the Labour Party wants to build a million new homes, and 'will be building at least 100,000 council and housing association homes a year for genuinely affordable rent or sale' (last year's manifesto)

Where exactly do they indeed to build them if not places like this?

The same Labour Councillor also proposed rejection on the grounds of 'the effect on Lancing College.' I never knew the Labour Party was so protective of private education.

I think the 'vote for this = not getting elected again' sways some councillor's minds in these situations. Not like a party whip turns up to pull them inline behind policy.

By the sounds of things - and I admit I'm purely going on the report above - that the key issues seem to be IKEA's environmental considerations and access to Lancing College.

Not even the antis (and they include Lancing Parish Council and Tim Loughton) are mentioning the housing any more, as that would seen to be petty NIMBYism and/or anti-housing.
 


worthingseagull123

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May 5, 2012
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You have to wonder as well about all the disruption to motorists on the A27 whilst they build it all. Got to factor in at least 18 months of unbearable disruption on A27 during rush hour.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Very,very surprised that Labour Councillors spoke against the plan.

After all the Labour Party wants to build a million new homes, and 'will be building at least 100,000 council and housing association homes a year for genuinely affordable rent or sale' (last year's manifesto)

Where exactly do they indeed to build them if not places like this?

The same Labour Councillor also proposed rejection on the grounds of 'the effect on Lancing College.' I never knew the Labour Party was so protective of private education.

At the local level, most councillors from all the parties side with Nimbies.

There are far more votes in that, that siding with land owners and the homeless who might move into the new homes.

This is a general comment, after closely following several planning applications in Brighton, Hove, Lewes and Haywards Heath.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
You have to wonder as well about all the disruption to motorists on the A27 whilst they build it all. Got to factor in at least 18 months of unbearable disruption on A27 during rush hour.

Why is that as there was no disrution when we built the training centre. Just a case of people wanting progression provided it doesnt affect or inconvenience them at all.
 


pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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By the sounds of things - and I admit I'm purely going on the report above - that the key issues seem to be IKEA's environmental considerations and access to Lancing College.

Not even the antis (and they include Lancing Parish Council and Tim Loughton) are mentioning the housing any more, as that would seen to be petty NIMBYism and/or anti-housing.

Might be tricky to solve the Lancing College access as really that would involve a new road in the South Downs National Park, although I don't think the access issue can be a reason to refuse this application.
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
6,256
Why is that as there was no disrution when we built the training centre. Just a case of people wantiung progression provided it doesnt affect or inconvenience them at all.

Well the training centre didn't include 600 houses, a major new roundabout on the A27 and a modified junction on the A27 :shrug:
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Might be tricky to solve the Lancing College access as really that would involve a new road in the South Downs National Park, although I don't think the access issue can be a reason to refuse this application.

It doesn't need to be a major road, or even a major junction. I'd imagine the SDNPA would allow an access road, to latch on to the current road, provided it didn't spoil the fabric of the area etc. Even a spur road off the roundabout ought to suffice - it's not as though it's a major traffic route.
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
6,256
It doesn't need to be a major road, or even a major junction. I'd imagine the SDNPA would allow an access road, to latch on to the current road, provided it didn't spoil the fabric of the area etc. Even a spur road off the roundabout ought to suffice - it's not as though it's a major traffic route.

I agree that it wouldn't be major, but I can imagine that it would be a right PITA and a lot of hard work and time to get something sorted and agreed, and probably not worth it as not having it wouldn't be a reason for refusal.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Well the training centre didn't include 600 houses, a major new roundabout on the A27 and a modified junction on the A27 :shrug:

Obviously the road changing will have an affect but 18 months as the housebuilding will not be done on the A27 but probabl;y with access from another road.as happened with the building of the centre.
 





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