[Albion] Goldson - Rangers [CONFIRMED]

BNthree · Jun 13, 2018

Mackenzie said:
Well I guess he just wants to play, can’t blame him for that. I hope we have a big sell on clause, as the fee seems an absolute steal.

Shrewsbury, who we bought him off, had a 20% sell on clause with us. The Shrews fan I know is very happy at this deal!

Wellesley · Jun 13, 2018

Titties.

Triggaaar · Jun 13, 2018

chaileyjem said:
Well they know because they talk to Barber or Hughton or Bloom and other sources who confirm or deny stories.

So this thread is finally an example of the Argus breaking a transfer story about one of our players then? No, of course it isn't, the Argus didn't break the story. Or perhaps you think Barber didn't know about Goldson's potential move to Rangers, since he hadn't told the Argus.

But poor old Brian Owen and Andy Naylor . Decades of standing up stories for a local paper, a service that is just about staying alive in obviously difficult circumstances , providing a lot of that journalism for free these days via Twitter and online and being a welcome credible alternative to the torrent of rumours, guesses and regurgitated journalism elsewhere in the window, including a lot of the national press who really do print exaggerated guff provided by agents and the like.

I get it, you're in the business, maybe even know Owen or Naylor, and you support them. I'm sorry I don't share your agenda.

And still users come on here and think its all lies, they know nothing and that Barber, of all people , is a liar and they print it.

I didn't call Barber a liar. I also didn't say that everything the Argus prints is a lie. I'm just pointing out that they don't know everything. Where is your proof that they know there were no other offers?

chaileyjem · Jun 13, 2018

Triggaaar said:
I didn't call Barber a liar. I also didn't say that everything the Argus prints is a lie. I'm just pointing out that they don't know everything. Where is your proof that they know there were no other offers?

I trust the Argus to not print it if otherwise and if they say sources at the club told them - it’s almost certainly Barber. And in this case that was their reporting.
You said he was economical with the truth. Ie: I read that to mean he was lying to the Argus and is a liar when dealing with the press. Apologies if you meant it to be anything else.

*Gullsworth* · Jun 13, 2018

Good luck to him......any Rangers fan looking on here will realise what a loss he is for us and a great player he will be for them. This lad has huge potential. Good luck to him....He wants to play more and he will be regularly playing in front of 40k adoring fans. One thing he has in his locker more than our brilliant pairing of Dunk and Duffy is potential goal threat from set pieces. He may score a decent amount north of the border. Good luck fella and thanks.

chaileyjem · Jun 13, 2018

Triggaaar said:
I get it, you're in the business, maybe even know Owen or Naylor, and you support them. I'm sorry I don't share your agenda.

And yep. I do work alongside journalists, value local football journalism and its attempts to survive.
My agenda , if thats what it is , is to support them whether at the Argus or the Northern Echo or the Eastern Daily Press or the Lancashire Telegraph because they do a valuable service sometimes holding clubs to account, reporting responsibly, and trying to stand up their reporting with sources from the Albion or elsewhere (players, agents, contacts abroad/in other papers) .
Most coverage of the transfer window especially is very thin stuff indeed. Rumours, lies, agent led guff recycled here and there, just outright fakery on mad Twitter accounts, some very dubious online football sites and by poor guys on national desks having to fill acres of space writing endless transfer rumour blogs and stories from dawn until dusk. Local paper journalism isn't like that.

I'm not deluded , the 2 full time journalists at the Argus who report on the Albion, filling 2-3 pages of the Argus every day with stories and interviews aren't likely to be breaking transfer stories when Albion scout the world for targets, although they have their moments. And Albion under Barber, Bloom keep everything pretty locked down.

But to say that the club lies to them, they print it without even thinking about it and or they wouldn't know something about the ins/outs/details of a big transfer story that they've now written about 6 or 7 times on in the last week then yep i'm inclined to post an alternative point of view on here in defence of em.

One Teddy Maybank · Jun 13, 2018

*Gullsworth* said:
Good luck to him......any Rangers fan looking on here will realise what a loss he is for us and a great player he will be for them. This lad has huge potential. Good luck to him....He wants to play more and he will be regularly playing in front of 40k adoring fans. One thing he has in his locker more than our brilliant pairing of Dunk and Duffy is potential goal threat from set pieces. He may score a decent amount north of the border. Good luck fella and thanks.

Well said.

However I remain gutted......

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Saunders · Jun 13, 2018

chaileyjem said:
And yep. I do work alongside journalists, value local football journalism and its attempts to survive.
My agenda , if thats what it is , is to support them whether at the Argus or the Northern Echo or the Eastern Daily Press or the Lancashire Telegraph because they do a valuable service sometimes holding clubs to account, reporting responsibly, and trying to stand up their reporting with sources from the Albion or elsewhere (players, agents, contacts abroad/in other papers) .
Most coverage of the transfer window especially is very thin stuff indeed. Rumours, lies, agent led guff recycled here and there, just outright fakery on mad Twitter accounts, some very dubious online football sites and by poor guys on national desks having to fill acres of space writing endless transfer rumour blogs and stories from dawn until dusk. Local paper journalism isn't like that.

I'm not deluded , the 2 full time journalists at the Argus who report on the Albion, filling 2-3 pages of the Argus every day with stories and interviews aren't likely to be breaking transfer stories when Albion scout the world for targets, although they have their moments. And Albion under Barber, Bloom keep everything pretty locked down.

But to say that the club lies to them, they print it without even thinking about it and or they wouldn't know something about the ins/outs/details of a big transfer story that they've now written about 6 or 7 times on in the last week then yep i'm inclined to post an alternative point of view on here in defence of em.

My grandfather was a type setter for the Argus and my uncle an editor, I have to admit the last time i purchased an Argus was our promoion edition they do the best they can in a world that is changing beyond thier control.

Albion my Albion · Jun 13, 2018

Remember the Albion fondly, Connor.

He might come back some day to lead the Albion to a top 6 finish in the PL.

Worried Man Blues · Jun 13, 2018

This is a real shame hope we don't regret this.....................Good Luck Connor

mikebha1963 · Jun 13, 2018

Well said [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

chaileyjem said:
And yep. I do work alongside journalists, value local football journalism and its attempts to survive.
My agenda , if thats what it is , is to support them whether at the Argus or the Northern Echo or the Eastern Daily Press or the Lancashire Telegraph because they do a valuable service sometimes holding clubs to account, reporting responsibly, and trying to stand up their reporting with sources from the Albion or elsewhere (players, agents, contacts abroad/in other papers) .
Most coverage of the transfer window especially is very thin stuff indeed. Rumours, lies, agent led guff recycled here and there, just outright fakery on mad Twitter accounts, some very dubious online football sites and by poor guys on national desks having to fill acres of space writing endless transfer rumour blogs and stories from dawn until dusk. Local paper journalism isn't like that.

I'm not deluded , the 2 full time journalists at the Argus who report on the Albion, filling 2-3 pages of the Argus every day with stories and interviews aren't likely to be breaking transfer stories when Albion scout the world for targets, although they have their moments. And Albion under Barber, Bloom keep everything pretty locked down.

But to say that the club lies to them, they print it without even thinking about it and or they wouldn't know something about the ins/outs/details of a big transfer story that they've now written about 6 or 7 times on in the last week then yep i'm inclined to post an alternative point of view on here in defence of em.

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Trelford Mills Guide Dog · Jun 13, 2018

Good luck to him.
A great lad and a very good player,
I will also miss his song !

Weststander · Jun 13, 2018

All the best to Connor Goldson. I hope he plays first team football and is a success.

Will miss his smiling face warming up as a sub (but never getting to come on!).

spence · Jun 13, 2018

Shrews get 500k

https://www.shropshirestar.com/spor...re-sum-after-connor-goldsons-move-to-rangers/

Triggaaar · Jun 13, 2018

chaileyjem said:
You said he was economical with the truth. Ie: I read that to mean he was lying

Being economical with the truth is not the same as lying.

Triggaaar · Jun 13, 2018

chaileyjem said:
And Albion under Barber, Bloom keep everything pretty locked down.

Agreed. That's in contrast to your earlier comments.

But to say that the club lies to them

Again, I didn't.

chaileyjem · Jun 13, 2018

Triggaaar said:
Being economical with the truth is not the same as lying.

Its a euphemism for lying or being misleading. Either way you're implying that Argus reporters, if thats what a club source is doing, are incapable of spotting that and just print what they're told.

Not Andy Naylor · Jun 13, 2018

CHAPPERS said:
But he wouldn't be able to develop into such a player if not playing regularly so what are you supposed to do?

In a way, our good luck with injuries and suspensions last season worked against Connor. It wouldn’t have been unreasonable to expect either Duffy or Dunk to pick up a couple of bans or injuries that gave him a chance. Sod’s Law will no doubt dictate that Balogun gets the sort of game time next season that Goldson didn’t. Let’s hope he does as well as CG would, no doubt, have done.

Blue3 · Jun 13, 2018

Good luck Conner and thank you

Any Rangers fans come to see what we think we'll you have got an absolute bargain I have no doubt he will prove to be the best defender north of the boarder and I for one will look forward to watching his progress

Not Andy Naylor · Jun 13, 2018

chaileyjem said:
But poor old Brian Owen and Andy Naylor . Decades of standing up stories for a local paper, a service that is just about staying alive in obviously difficult circumstances , providing a lot of that journalism for free these days via Twitter and online and being a welcome credible alternative to the torrent of rumours, guesses and regurgitated journalism elsewhere in the window, including a lot of the national press who really do print exaggerated guff provided by agents and the like.

Completely this. As I’ve said many times before, nobody knows anything. Ninety percent of it is made up. Remember some of the players we were ‘linked with’ last summer? John Terry, anyone? On no, that’s right - the story run by the Evening Standard and the Mirror (by someone I know, whom I tried to tell not to write such nonsense) was that we wouldn’t be signing him because we wouldn’t meet his wage demands - not that we were never interested in him and wouldn’t want a player with his attitude and issues anywhere near our squad.

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