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    All very sad. Even if the club no longer choose to celebrate it, DK had a very big and important part to play in our survival, we the fans, will not forget it. Such a shame how it ends imo.

    Long live the Dicktator.
    Very sad indeed. It takes two to tango.
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      Very sad indeed. It takes two to tango.
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      Very sad indeed. It takes two to tango.
      It feels like both sides are laying bare their character flaws, sadly.

      Dick Knight when running the club, presided over a bit of a clique. These people were all good people but there was a lot of secrecy and nose tapping surrounding everything. The very worst of this was his refusal to inform everyone how the ground was going to be paid for once the sub prime mortgage market collapsed. So in some ways, his exclusion amounts to him getting a taste of his own medicine.

      Fast forward to now, and on the whole, the club behaves in a way that exudes class and inclusivity, but this freezing out of a club legend flies in the face of that and makes me think it *might* be as superficial as it looks. No programme acknowledgement of his 80th, no selling of his book at the club shop, even refusing the idea of a ceremonial handing over of the reigns before the opening Amex game - it all smacks of petty, churlish point scoring and an attempt to airbrush out Knight's part of the club's history. Knight has come across as a bit egocentric with some of his behaviour, but is there any need for this? The directors should be better than this.

      It makes you wonder how things will be if we ever have any bad times, because let's face it, that hasn't happened yet under this regime but it will one day.
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      It feels like both sides are laying bare their character flaws, sadly.

      Dick Knight when running the club, presided over a bit of a clique. These people were all good people but there was a lot of secrecy and nose tapping surrounding everything. The very worst of this was his refusal to inform everyone how the ground was going to be paid for once the sub prime mortgage market collapsed. So in some ways, his exclusion amounts to him getting a taste of his own medicine.

      Fast forward to now, and the club behaves in a way that exudes class and inclusivity, but this freezing out of a club legend flies in the face of that and makes me think it *might* be as superficial as it looks. No programme acknowledgement of his 80th, no selling of his book at the club shop, even refusing the idea of a ceremonial handing over of the reigns before the opening Amex game - it all smacks of petty, churlish point scoring and an attempt to airbrush out Knight's part of the club's history. Knight has come across as a bit egocentric with some of his behaviour, but is there any need for this? The directors should be better than this.

      It makes you wonder how things will be if we ever have any bad times, because let's face it, that hasn't happened yet under this regime but it will one day.
      I think Tony Bloom was already providing money in the background, but didn't want it known. He wasn't prepared to take over the club until the planning permission was secured.
      That, and a combination of the steel price soaring through the roof & bank collapses, forced Dick Knight's hand.
      He started Albion in the Community, and had been courting American Express because of it. Then he got ousted from that too.

      I think there have been faults on both sides which is very sad.
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      I think Tony Bloom was already providing money in the background, but didn't want it known. He wasn't prepared to take over the club until the planning permission was secured.
      That, and a combination of the steel price soaring through the roof & bank collapses, forced Dick Knight's hand.
      He started Albion in the Community, and had been courting American Express because of it. Then he got ousted from that too.

      I think there have been faults on both sides which is very sad.
      Yes, agree with all of that. I still remember the nose tapping secrecy even after the steel price movement and tightening on borrowing meant people were worried and we were getting no answers.
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      Calderon is the type of guy that if your daughter married, you would worry that she was not good enough for him.
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      It feels like both sides are laying bare their character flaws, sadly.

      Dick Knight when running the club, presided over a bit of a clique. These people were all good people but there was a lot of secrecy and nose tapping surrounding everything. The very worst of this was his refusal to inform everyone how the ground was going to be paid for once the sub prime mortgage market collapsed. So in some ways, his exclusion amounts to him getting a taste of his own medicine.

      Fast forward to now, and on the whole, the club behaves in a way that exudes class and inclusivity, but this freezing out of a club legend flies in the face of that and makes me think it *might* be as superficial as it looks. No programme acknowledgement of his 80th, no selling of his book at the club shop, even refusing the idea of a ceremonial handing over of the reigns before the opening Amex game - it all smacks of petty, churlish point scoring and an attempt to airbrush out Knight's part of the club's history. Knight has come across as a bit egocentric with some of his behaviour, but is there any need for this? The directors should be better than this.

      It makes you wonder how things will be if we ever have any bad times, because let's face it, that hasn't happened yet under this regime but it will one day.
      Personally, it seems to me that, at the heart of a lot of the problems is the stereotypical difference in approach to life and business one might expect between an ad man famous for the “Hello Boys” Wonderbra ad, and a money/detail-oriented man who’s made his money from extracting tiny points of arbitrage and property development. It’s very rare that a marketing man and a money man will get on particularly well... they just do things differently.
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      Yes, agree with all of that. I still remember the nose tapping secrecy even after the steel price movement and tightening on borrowing meant people were worried and we were getting no answers.
      I might also add that DK doesn't forget the fans. I've been to several funerals except Mary Emery as it was the same day as my cousin's, and Dick had been present at each and every one.
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      Yes, agree with all of that. I still remember the nose tapping secrecy even after the steel price movement and tightening on borrowing meant people were worried and we were getting no answers.
      To be fair though, there WERE no answers. These were unparalleled times and there was no way the banks were lending money to anyone for anything at all, they were just focusing on not going under. We were in a uniquely fortunate position to have a massive fan with very deep pockets else we would have been scrabbling around for years following the planning permission to scrape together a deal for the cash to build the stadium, doubtless with all manner of grim strings attached.

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