Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Beachy you could have been out kite surfing rather than wasting your life watching that! Why?
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[Football] Will Celtic claim bragging rights....
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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Beachy you could have been out kite surfing rather than wasting your life watching that! Why?
KZNSeagull
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It's a great fixture. If you want a guaranteed win on an accumulator, that is.
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Wrong-Direction
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One down
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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It's not pointless. In the same way the Highland League's not pointless, or whatever the equivalent is in Wales or any other country for that matter. Small countries, big passions. Are we all supposed to give up on the game we love just because SKY telly's not pouring countless millions of quid in, like they do into a 'Premier' League that contains far more than it's fair share of mediocre clubs.
Wardy's twin
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Agee. also the PL has a runaway winner who are likely to win it next year.
ATFC Seagull
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I wonder how many hundreds/thousands of posts have accumulated on NSC over the years to say how much no-one cares about Scottish football?
To have ones views aired about the MTL does not mean one cares a jot about the MTL.
I had one Celtic 'fan' tell me last week that Celtic fans were the best in the world and they'd 'piss' the Premier League if they were to join.
I pointed out that all clubs think they have the best fans, Celtic needed to grow up and forget the secretarian shyt, were they Irish or Scottish and **** off if they think they can join the English league.
Even if City wins the next 2 years its not even close to being the same as the one team league that has been created in Scotland after Rangers was crippled into the bottom leagues.
Last seven years
EPL
Manchester City
Mancester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Leicester City
Chelsea
Manchester City
Last seven years for SPL
Celtic x7
Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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Oh dear.
Years of comfortable dominance have bred complacency and delusion. Their performances in Europe certainly back up his bold statement. I would imagine that they could survive in the PL but its not a guarantee. Look at the lower placed teams in England and they all ( on paper ) have more quality in their squads. Pitch them against Burnley, Palace, Everton, Leicester, Brighton and West Ham and they would do well to win two games out of six.
Celtic would become a genuine European force after a few years in the PL, Rangers would take considerably longer from where they are now but have the potential. As for other Scottish top division teams, they’re probably championship:league 1 level with the occasional unsuccessful foray into the PL for teams like Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs.
Tom Bombadil
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Would they even qualify for europe from the premier league? Say hypothetically Celtic were to transfer directly from the mtl to the pl, I can't see Scottish football letting them take one of their european places so Celtic would need to qualify via their pl position. I can't see them automatically displacing two of Man City, Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs and possibly a resurgent arsenal. It's also likely to be a cultural shock to when your so called easier games are against sides with 25k support and premier league money not teams with 4k crowds funded by the local tea cake factory
Mo Gosfield
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You cannot say that for certain.
Celtic had two European Cup Finals ( 67/70 ) but have failed to really threaten again since. There wasn't the big money gap between Scotland and England for nearly 30 years and yet Celtic and Rangers did little in Europe, despite playing to big crowds. Very good players were still being attracted to these clubs in the 80's and 90's ( Gascoigne, Butcher, Larsson, Wilkins, Hateley etc ) but they still didn't threaten to win Europe's top prize.
It is a mistake to think that Celtic and Rangers just need big money to take off. Why couldn't Leeds, Villa, Derby, Sheff Wed or Forest do the same thing, given the same time? Sure, Celtic and Rangers play to bigger crowds but then so do Newcastle and they aren't about to become giants of European football.
Lower West Stander
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Turning on BBC News last night and it was the first story on the sport section. This is ahead of Lewis Hamilton winning an incredibly exciting GP race, Man City going over 100 goals for the season and Man Utd beating Arsenal in jury time in Wenger’s last game at Old Trafford!
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Mo Gosfield
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No they wouldn't.
People make the mistake of labelling them ' sleeping giants ' and just assume that massive injections of cash would immediately make them competitive at the highest level. They would have to spend years establishing their ' brand ' on a global basis against clubs who have had a huge headstart. They would have to recruit managers and coaches of the highest calibre and they would have to persuade higher class players, most of whom would not be aware or interested in the delights of Glasgow, to join them, with no guarantee of playing in Europe.
Tyrone Biggums
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So you turned on the British Broadcasting Corporation News and they lead with a story about something British.
Mo Gosfield
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The BBC is so painfully and sensitively PC that it goes out of its way to headline affairs in Scotland and Ireland before England. The weather forecast always starts with a sweep across NI and Scotland before a gradual descent down country before finally coming to rest at London and the SE.