[Sussex] A27 Route Decision Delayed .... again!

Tim Over Whelmed · Apr 27, 2018

Originally a decision was due in Feb '18, then Spring and now Summer!

That said, of course, this has been rolling on for 30 years now .... meanwhile the only people it suits is those who prefer to do nothing but fail to come up with solutions to a very obvious problem.

https://www.bognor.co.uk/news/transport/arundel-a27-route-announcement-by-summer-1-8477162

Pavilionaire · Apr 27, 2018

It's been more than 20 years since the building came to a very abrupt halt at Crossbush.

We're talking about the main East - West road across the south of England. Just a complete shambles.

BensGrandad · Apr 27, 2018

Pavilionaire said:
It's been more than 20 years since the building came to a very abrupt halt at Crossbush.

We're talking about the main East - West road across the south of England. Just a complete shambles.

Wasn't this abandoned due to the cost which by now will have risen considerably. A dual carriageway/motorway is needed as originally planned from Folkestone to Honiton linking up with existing dual carriageways and motorways.

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 27, 2018

The sooner they bypass the many roundabouts around Chichester the better.

Tim Over Whelmed · Apr 27, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Wasn't this abandoned due to the cost which by now will have risen considerably. A dual carriageway/motorway is needed as originally planned from Folkestone to Honiton linking up with existing dual carriageways and motorways.

Ah, The South Coast Super Highway .... yes, never happened due to successive Governments planning and cancelling elements

BensGrandad · Apr 27, 2018

Tim Over Whelmed said:
Ah, The South Coast Super Highway .... yes, never happened due to successive Governments planning and cancelling elements

With the increased number of vehicles it is needed more now than ever.

Tricky Dicky · Apr 27, 2018

Blue Valkyrie said:
The sooner they bypass the many roundabouts around Chichester the better.

... and Worthing, and Lancing.

happypig · Apr 27, 2018

Blue Valkyrie said:
The sooner they bypass the many roundabouts around Chichester the better.

Isn't the problem that there are two proposed routes; the people living in north chichester want the southern one and vice versa.

Stat Brother · Apr 27, 2018

I believe, although am happy to be wrong, there's also a problem with how congestion is registered.

Isn't it the case that the A27 isn't actually 'congested' because the traffic does move.
Sure it only moves at 2 mph, but because that's considered moving, the A27 isn't a high enough priority for massive central funding.

Djmiles · Apr 27, 2018

An Arundel bypass will be useless for many unless they REALLY tackle the problem at Chichester and Worthing rather than just patching the odd roundabout here and there.

Tim Over Whelmed · Apr 27, 2018

BensGrandad said:
With the increased number of vehicles it is needed more now than ever.

Absolutely, the current Arundel Relief Road isn't coping and causing unnecessary pollution and increasing journey times whilst also serving to force people to rat run and use routes through our Downsland towns, villages and hamlets, such as Storrington, Houghton and many others

Tim Over Whelmed · Apr 27, 2018

Djmiles said:
An Arundel bypass will be useless for many unless they REALLY tackle the problem at Chichester and Worthing rather than just patching the odd roundabout here and there.

There are three areas with strategic plans, Worthing, Arundel and Chichester. If we wait for all three to fall in line it'll never happen and play into the hands of the NIMBY's, we need to solve one and then solve the others. Arundel is in line first and the most problematic, Chichester had a chance but blew it by creating divisions between previously united groups, I believe.

LamieRobertson · Apr 27, 2018

happypig said:
Isn't the problem that there are two proposed routes; the people living in north chichester want the southern one and vice versa.

Demolish Chichester that will sort that problem out

Thunder Bolt · Apr 27, 2018

Stat Brother said:
I believe, although am happy to be wrong, there's also a problem with how congestion is registered.

Isn't it the case that the A27 isn't actually 'congested' because the traffic does move.
Sure it only moves at 2 mph, but because that's considered moving, the A27 isn't a high enough priority for massive central funding.

Yet the DofT can find £23M for a road in Newhaven to the eastern side of the port that nobody wants or needs.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1614...n_Newhaven_Port_access_road__waste_of_money_/

BensGrandad · Apr 27, 2018

Wasn't the original plan for Crossbush to go over the Arun via a bridge to join the dual carriageway just west of Arundel Hospital and the cricket ground and pub.

BensGrandad · Apr 27, 2018

Thunder Bolt said:
Yet the DofT can find £23M for a road in Newhaven to the eastern side of the port that nobody wants or needs.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1614...n_Newhaven_Port_access_road__waste_of_money_/

They are not talking of such a comparatively small amount as I am sure I read the cost is about £10m per mile taking into account buying land and building the road etc.

el punal · Apr 27, 2018

happypig said:
Isn't the problem that there are two proposed routes; the people living in north chichester want the southern one and vice versa.

Easy solution there! Build a superhighway through Chichester city centre itself. A dual carriageway with three lanes in each direction. What about the cathedral you say? Simple - westbound on south side, eastbound on the north. What about pedestrians? Well - they’ll just have to be careful where they walk or they’ll get squished, rather messy but hey that’s progress.

So all in all that’ll please all the nimby buggers on the north and south side of the city. As for shopping? Well they’ll all have to bugger off to Bognor to do that. Beggars can’t be choosers!

Right that’s Chi sorted. Now, as for Arundel . . . . :drink:

Spiros · Apr 27, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Wasn't the original plan for Crossbush to go over the Arun via a bridge to join the dual carriageway just west of Arundel Hospital and the cricket ground and pub.

And that's one of the options included in the last consultation, so I believe

Thunder Bolt · Apr 27, 2018

BensGrandad said:
They are not talking of such a comparatively small amount as I am sure I read the cost is about £10m per mile taking into account buying land and building the road etc.

I know. It's still a waste of money when there is already access.

BensGrandad · Apr 27, 2018

Thunder Bolt said:
I know. It's still a waste of money when there is already access.

To the likes of you and me that is a lot of money but to the DOT and government in general it is just a drop in the ocean of high finance.

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