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    Quote Originally Posted by NooBHA View Post
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    Then if this criteria is acceptable to the Home Office, they have the power to access NIC Records. All they need do is request an NI Number and check the records themselves without the need to even contact anyone, let alone ask them to fill out forms and provide documentation
    That’s a good idea, if you are ever required to provide documentation as proof of something simply say “you look it up, don’t bother me”
    I don’t know why we don’t run the country like this.
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      It is justified on this particular topic. It is a far right action, which is why the government are hastily back tracking because of the storm it has created.

      A woman who has worked in the House of Commons serving their food, is sent to a detention centre? A man being denied cancer treatment? How can you nit pick and quibble about words when people's lives are being ruined?
      You genuinely believe that the intention of this policy was to deport those who have lived here for years and have a right to do so, and this isn't a tragic case of the baby being thrown out with the bathwater?

      And in what way is or will back-tracking occur? I certainly would not expect the government to, metaphorically at least, open up and allow all-comers to use our services, and why would they? What clearly needs to happen is a shift in the burden of proof required, such that those who have lived here for many years are able to easily illustrate that and get on with living their lives in the country they call home.
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      It will come as no surprise to you that the Impster has already described the government as 'far right' (on the Brexit thread)
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      I'll put your political leanings in the same bracket as Ghengis Khan, if you don't think removing people's civil liberties without cause isn't far right.
      Dont be such willfully obtuse berk,anything that has actually happened wrongly has happened in error,when it was thought cause was correctly applied. Its a mistake if it happened in error but people are not having their liberties deliberately stripped in the manner of a far-right dictatorship where cause isnt even a consideration.
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      iTS not racist you bell end, Have you seen the level of homeless ness in California? It represents a Mexican.

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      so you report apost, post that youve reported it(trying to get others to join in), claim its racist but make no attempt to explain why, nice try loser.
      You don't think that the depiction of the Mexican is racist ? In fairness, I understand that it's not possible for you to see what you are doing and encouraging.
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      ....and you seem to be hanging around these politics threads for an unhealthy amount of time...
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      Ah. Here comes the other Parnell McCarthy.
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      Can you do me a favour and list, explicitly, who from this thread you believe are not compassionate. Asking for a friend.
      Most are- well all in their own way.

      Except the resident Looney. But that was to be expected.
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      You genuinely believe that the intention of this policy was to deport those who have lived here for years and have a right to do so, and this isn't a tragic case of the baby being thrown out with the bathwater?

      And in what way is or will back-tracking occur? I certainly would not expect the government to, metaphorically at least, open up and allow all-comers to use our services, and why would they? What clearly needs to happen is a shift in the burden of proof required, such that those who have lived here for many years are able to easily illustrate that and get on with living their lives in the country they call home.
      No, that wasn't the intention, but it was a by product of an ill thought out policy. These people were told they were British. They didn't take out British citizenship because they didn't need to, but the act of Parliament in 2014, meant their status as citizens were removed. They didn't have British birth certificates. so they couldn't get a biometric document which later immigrants could. It was a complete oversight.

      Combine that with over officious civil servants who then insist on documents of proof which were unavailble due to the length of time elapsed.
      Some were told they could pay £229 to take out British citizenship, which Amber Rudd has announced just this afternoon, isn't necessary, but there have been cases where people are already deported, refused cancer treatment and lost their jobs because they didn't have any rights due to the mess up in the Home Office. The statement in the HoC today has already produced an apology to some of them.
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      NSC at its very best ~ a post based on assumption on a matter the poster hasn't got a clue about!!
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      Dont be such willfully obtuse berk,anything that has actually happened wrongly has happened in error,when it was thought cause was correctly applied. Its a mistake if it happened in error but people are not having their liberties deliberately stripped in the manner of a far-right dictatorship where cause isnt even a consideration.
      They have been deliberately stripped of their liberties albeit by mistake. Refused cancer treatment last November despite paying all his dues in taxes and NI contributions.
      Even then alarm bells should have rung that something wasn't right, and the special needs teacher who lost his job last year and has had trouble claiming benefits.
      It's only when all this publicity has broken over the last two days, the government has admitted its mistakes.
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      First time I have agreed with you, why block someone and then be obsessed with them
      Vehemently disagree with your politics Ernie but wouldn't dream of blocking you and if I was that way inclined certainly wouldn't go on ... and on ..and on about it
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