Klaas
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Classic what about twatterry from you. Textbook.
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[Politics] The Tories hit new LOWS with the Windrush situation
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Classic what about twatterry from you. Textbook.
The Large One
Who's Next?
The Large One
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Good grief.
If they're 'sorry', it's only because they've been found out. But they're not sorry. Why would they be when this is at the heart of the Immigration Act.
So what are they going to get sorted? The only way to sort it is the complete abolition of the current Act.
So no, - NOT end of story. Very far from it. Hopeless naivety on your part if you believe that.
portslade seagull
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Labour set the ball rolling the blues kept it going
The Large One
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Getting the story wrong first time, and endlessly repeating it doesn't mean eventually you will be right. Falsehoods don't operate that way.
The Blues - as you put it - didn't keep anything going. They actively changed the rules.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-who-destroyed-the-windrush-landing-cards
Not true. That was something made up by May when she was on the spot.
No 10 admitted it wasn't true about an hour later
The Large One
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Are they the only two options open to you?
No border control on one side of the argument, and an aggressive enforced repatriation policy (illegally removing certain individuals) on the other?
Good one.
Unfortunately you can see from some of the witless and illiterate replies on here that for some people any price is worth paying if we get control of our borders back. Just blame labour, throw a few quid at the unfortunates, and move along. After all, nothing like this will ever happen again, will it?
Apparently the snake, Rudd, lied yesterday about this. Doesn't matter, does it?
Yes it does.
Raleigh Chopper
New member
It's ok now, don't worry, panic over.
The targets that Amber Rudd said never existed after saying so in front of the committee and The Commons have now been removed by Amber Rudd.
Next on stage is Bernie Clifton with his Ostrich.
The targets that Amber Rudd said never existed after saying so in front of the committee and The Commons have now been removed by Amber Rudd.
Next on stage is Bernie Clifton with his Ostrich.
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
apocryphal
The Large One
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No - factual.
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
a story of dubious origins which repeated enough is widely treated as true, clearly its not true. She lied,
The Large One
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Oh. I thought you meant the Fact Checkers' story was apocryphal.
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
Can't we just stop all this bickering and have the wogs start at Calais again, like they did in the good old days?
I said "Whatever you do, don't let those bloody Huguenots in!" but did anybody listen?
Beginning of the end right there, if you ask me....
I said "Whatever you do, don't let those bloody Huguenots in!" but did anybody listen?
Beginning of the end right there, if you ask me....
portslade seagull
Well-known member
So are you denying that the whole situation wasn't set in motion by Labour making the decision to destroy the landing cards even though that report you added factually says they did
You clearly didn't read it - it says the exact opposite: "Alan Johnson was the Labour Home Secretary at the time. When asked if he knew that the registry slips were being destroyed, he said: “No, it was an administrative decision taken by the UK Border Agency.”
The Birdman
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Sorry how many different Governments have been in power since they came over who gave the instruction to destroy the paper work.
Let's get it sorted it out and keep separate from illegal immigrants.
Let's get it sorted it out and keep separate from illegal immigrants.
clapham_gull
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Labour didn't make the decision. It was the border agency who destroyed them along with a number of other documents as part of a clear out. Retrospectively a bad idea but it would have had no material effect under that administration. There no was agenda.
It was until the Tories changed the legislation (without making it clear) to remove the exceptions in the law for the Windrush generation that the documents became an issue.
Unfortunately the whole documents thing is a distraction. It didn't set anything in motion as you suggest. It was also utterly caused by Tory spin doctors briefing about the documents to deflect blame away from the Government.
Where do you think the press got the story from ?
Labour spun it to say "under Tories", the Tories (from where the story came from) re-checked the date and then blamed Labour.
The reality that the decision wasn't party political or influenced by the immigration debate.
Back to the actual issue, whilst the civil servants in the Home Office have obviously been operating like "drones" the Government were ignoring the numerous concerns being relayed to them for ages.
So stop supporting political parties like football teams.
This is a Tory **** up which they have now fully admitted to.
Even they have stopped defending themselves.
You don't need to do it for them.
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