Gritt23
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This is a dreadful decision, and hopefully one that gets swiftly reversed.
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[Politics] The Tories hit new LOWS with the Windrush situation
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The Large One
Who's Next?
Regardless of his motives (and I think he's allowed to care about both?) this affair really does cast the present government, and its leader, in an especially shitty light.
The Large One
Who's Next?
Well, when Jeremy Corbyn's administration arbitrarily and mistakenly deports people on the back this policy, I am sure he'll hammer that one home. Let's wait and see.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43780621
A little more detail about the Home Office and how the new legislation caught people out.
Changes to the immigration system from 2012 onwards clamped down on people living in the UK illegally, introducing new checks by employers, landlords and the NHS.
And some people who arrived legally decades ago are being caught out by these checks, when they try to rent a house or get medical treatment, because they aren't able to prove their status.
That's because the Home Office didn't keep records of those it granted indefinite leave to remain in the 1970s, and not everyone went on to apply to become British citizens.
To prove they are living in the country legally, people in this situation must currently apply for No Time Limit (NTL) status at a cost of £229.
They must provide documentation for every year they have been in the country, which can include payslips, bank statements and educational or medical records.
The Home Office says more informal testimonies will do. But a legal charity, the Joint Council for Welfare of Immigrants, says that in practice many are having their applications rejected if they are not able to provide up to four pieces of formal documentation for each year.
I only keep bank statements, P60s etc for 10 years. How would anyone be expected to keep them for 50 years.
A little more detail about the Home Office and how the new legislation caught people out.
Changes to the immigration system from 2012 onwards clamped down on people living in the UK illegally, introducing new checks by employers, landlords and the NHS.
And some people who arrived legally decades ago are being caught out by these checks, when they try to rent a house or get medical treatment, because they aren't able to prove their status.
That's because the Home Office didn't keep records of those it granted indefinite leave to remain in the 1970s, and not everyone went on to apply to become British citizens.
To prove they are living in the country legally, people in this situation must currently apply for No Time Limit (NTL) status at a cost of £229.
They must provide documentation for every year they have been in the country, which can include payslips, bank statements and educational or medical records.
The Home Office says more informal testimonies will do. But a legal charity, the Joint Council for Welfare of Immigrants, says that in practice many are having their applications rejected if they are not able to provide up to four pieces of formal documentation for each year.
I only keep bank statements, P60s etc for 10 years. How would anyone be expected to keep them for 50 years.
Raleigh Chopper
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Kicking off live in the commons now.
Rudd getting it from all sides.
Seems it's commonwealth going back a long time.
The pathetic Rudd trying to wriggle off the hook.
I hope MP's and media drive the nail home on this one.
Rudd " We really value the Windrush generation, we will really look after them, I am sorry some have had troubles with health issues".
This is going well beyond Windrush MP's standing up with all sorts of stories from constituents from Commonwealth countries.
Rudd getting it from all sides.
Seems it's commonwealth going back a long time.
The pathetic Rudd trying to wriggle off the hook.
I hope MP's and media drive the nail home on this one.
Rudd " We really value the Windrush generation, we will really look after them, I am sorry some have had troubles with health issues".
This is going well beyond Windrush MP's standing up with all sorts of stories from constituents from Commonwealth countries.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
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Yeah OK cupcake ... Red Ernie quoting the King of Austerity ex Tory Chancellor to attack the PM (the person who sacked Gorgeous George)
Yep definitely stupid.
We all know what his motives are.
Unlike some, I don't start from a position of "Tories, and particularly Theresa May, are evil baby-eaters". I'm not sure I've seen anything presented on this story yet that clearly indicates an explicit desire for the current government to enforce wholesale deportation on people who, to all intents and purposes, are as British as many of us and deserve the same access to all this country has to offer as I do. As useless as Theresa May so clearly is on many levels, I don't believe that is her intent here.
Even as I type this, [MENTION=14365]Thunder Bolt[/MENTION] has posted something which suggests this looks like badly-implemented legislation being imposed without the care and sensitivity it so clearly requires.
Given the publicity that is now surrounding this story, hopefully this will be addressed in the very near future and those suffering distress are able to move on with their lives in this country.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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You'll have a long wait.
What were the OP's views on allegations of sexual misconduct/assaults/rape in the Labour party and antisemitism in the Labour party? Feel free to quote all the condemnation.
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I'm still not voting for Labour, in fact I will never vote for those losers again after Blair. The party gets worse.
erkan
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At least it's honest abuse rather than the laughable disingenuity involved when he tells us he has no party preference.
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pastafarian
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BBC needs to keep up, it was explained earlier in the house that they dont need documentation for every single year they have been here but The Home Office just need to build up an overall picture, which they are now going to try and do via this new special unit,Rudd also said the NTL status fee will be waived for the windrush group
Lincoln Imp
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I agree with your sentiments, although my disgust of May has been burning for months, born of her ability to lie to the public without flinching, and to put her career and her party before her country. She and most of her colleagues deserve each other. They revolt me. And this from a man who is not 'of the left'. My country continues to be shamed by these people. A pattern develops.
Raleigh Chopper
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A day of shame.
Only defended by the most ignorant of people.
Only defended by the most ignorant of people.
I've very clearly stated many times, including today on another thread, where my X went last time and will go next time round. I'd take a photo for you if it helped, but that's illegal.
pastafarian
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She said she was not aware of a single person being deported but was aware of MP`s and the sections of the media saying people had been deported. She urged them to contact her or the home office and identify these cases as a matter of urgency.I guess if you are aware of deportations yourself you can write to her as well.
She is Home Secretary, she should know if anyone has been deported and be able to state without fear of contradiction whether anyone has been deported from this country whatever the case
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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Anyone got a clue how it's got this far?
Surely as soon as this started it should have been identified as manifestly, fundamentally wrong.
The very first case should have alerted the constituent's MP, local and national press, community groups.
What an utter clusterF.
Surely as soon as this started it should have been identified as manifestly, fundamentally wrong.
The very first case should have alerted the constituent's MP, local and national press, community groups.
What an utter clusterF.
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