[Politics] It is time to end free speech

TWOCHOICEStom said:

I don't think it does speak volumes. I think it's one situation which is being used to prove a point which is hard to prove.

The (mainly white male) Police force, in this case do not have a pro-muslim agenda. By using that clip as proof that the Police have double standards isn't helpful to any discussion.

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Buzzer said:

I've no strong opinions on this but I do think there's a case for saying that there some police that are anti-Tommy Robinson. The incident in Cambridge proves this and whilst I get that he's done a lot of things to put himself in that position, everyone should be treated equally and fairly under the law. From what I've read, he is being targeted.

The pre-emptive actions against him in the name of a greater good is all part of this huge debate about free speech and I don't have any answers but I'm certain that silencing people we don't agree with is not the way forward.

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alfredmizen said:

one example ? one example ? ye gods have you been on mars for the last few years and missed the part where grooming gangs were routinely ignored by both the police and local authorities for fear of accusations of racism ? it beggars belief

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Goldstone1976 said:

In general, yep, I agree. One caveat: a great orator can persuade joe public of the merits of his/her ideas, irrespective of the validity of the content. It’s important to always evaluate the content of what is being promoted, and not just get carried away by the emotional impact of great oratory.

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Goldstone1976 said:

AFAIK, there's no way of adding an algorithm to additionally look at the content of the first n posts - I highly doubt it...it would need to be a pretty sophisticated AI.

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The Clamp said:

doesn't really make sense. This Tommy chap hits a lot of other people and when he gets pulled up for it his defence is "But they rape people in Telford". No wonder nobody in their right mind seems to take him seriously. Just a street brawler isn't he?

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DavidinSouthampton said:

People "preaching" racial hatred and violence from a right-wing political point of view should be banned from doing so just as much as Muslim preachers who they condemn for preaching the same sort of stuff from the other side.

The OP might not have noticed that we already have right-wing organisations that are banned in this country...... and probably left-wing organisations too, but I am not an expert on the matter.

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daveinprague said:

I believe that religious hatred has elements of racial hatred in the UK where the vast, vast majority of muslims are not white.

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johanngull said:

The tide is turning now where millions are joining the movement to end free speech for everyone.
The violence at free speech marches are enough to show it only attracts Fascists and Nazis.
Yesterdays free speech rally that descended into violence at speakers corner is a perfect example of why it needs to end to stop to end the violence



Free speech for everyone is overrated and outdated, it is a tool for the privileged elite to subjugate the masses.
End it now so people can be educated to the truth and be free of the Daily Mail hate lies

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DavidinSouthampton said:

People "preaching" racial hatred and violence from a right-wing political point of view should be banned from doing so just as much as Muslim preachers who they condemn for preaching the same sort of stuff from the other side.

The OP might not have noticed that we already have right-wing organisations that are banned in this country...... and probably left-wing organisations too, but I am not an expert on the matter.

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Psychobilly freakout said:

Keep, how else will we know what facist’s, Radical’s etc think.

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alfredmizen said:

can you show me some evidence of tommy robinson preaching racial hatred and violence ?

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DavidinSouthampton said:

Just out of interest, I have managed to find on the Home Office website a list of proscribed terrorist organisation, which is mostly about ISIL, Jihad etc, with a Basque country thing in there somewhere as well, and a few Irish organisations right at the end.
https://www.scribd.com/document/318729850/Proscribed-Terrorist-Organisations-UK-Home-Office-2016

But I can't find a list of banned political parties - "political" just brings it back to the Terrorist list.
Any ideas? and I am not trying to make any sort of point on this - just asking and curious.

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alfredmizen said:

oh save the faux innocence about "this tommy chap" you fool nobody , if you can post videos of him initiating punch ups rather than just defending himself id be interested to see them

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alfredmizen said:

shouldnt you be more concerned about shit like this ? https://twitter.com/imanitasharma/status/974585242752290816?s=12

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