AmexRuislip
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Next thing we'll be told that, that cock grew up in Sussex, and always had a soft spot for the Albion.
Oh wait, just like Piers Morgan.
Oh wait, just like Piers Morgan.
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[Albion] Jim Davidson on Piers Morgan's Life Stories
- Thread starter Lenny Rider
- Start date
Winner chooses gets to choose death by stoning or fire.
On second thoughts, this is better:
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
Political correctness gone mad
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
Why are either of those people getting airtime?
drew
Drew
Not sure how you can put Till Death Us Do Part in the same bracket at Love Thy Neighbour and On the Buses. TDUDP was quite clearly a clever parody. You didn't laugh with the character of Alf Garnet, you laughed at him and his views.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,119
I think he means this thread!
I love the irony that he is complaining and PC brigade column inches while himself starting a thread to give the story more air time.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Absolutely, although the amount of people who it seems don't realise this is a little worrying.
Bob'n'weave
Well-known member
Fair point, Garnet shouldn't have been in that list, certainly not anything like the other two. Think I was stretching the net when it came to examples.
I notice he used the answer that all plastics do when asked why don't they support their local club:
'Why don't you support Brighton then?'
'Oh, i've always supported Arsenal'
They never actually answer the question do they?
AmexRuislip
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Absolutely right, just goes to show the shallowness of these types!
- Jul 7, 2003
- 47,221
I'm absolutely thrilled he supports Arsenal. Imagine the horror and embarrassment of him supporting us. It's a bit like if, say, Nigel Farage announced he was a Palace fa....oh.
GT49er
Well-known member
Wasn't it a programme reviewing the career of Jim Davidson? 'Chalky' was part of that career, so he was asked about it, and replied in character. As part of the past. The past which is no longer part of the present.
As in, 'This is what I used to do, and why' - not that I intend to carry on doing it now.
Like, if Warren Mitchell could come back to be interviewed, and was asked about his on-screen relationship with Tony Booth, replied, "Yeh, I used to call him [reverts into character] a randy scarss git" would that have to be vilified, just because it wouldn't be acceptable language now? Just saying what used to happen, or what it was OK to say back then isn't tryng to bring it back into modern acceptance - it's just saying what was acceptable............back then. It's called history................
As in, 'This is what I used to do, and why' - not that I intend to carry on doing it now.
Like, if Warren Mitchell could come back to be interviewed, and was asked about his on-screen relationship with Tony Booth, replied, "Yeh, I used to call him [reverts into character] a randy scarss git" would that have to be vilified, just because it wouldn't be acceptable language now? Just saying what used to happen, or what it was OK to say back then isn't tryng to bring it back into modern acceptance - it's just saying what was acceptable............back then. It's called history................
I've not seen this hellish abomination of a show so I don't know what occurred.
But are you really trying to stick up for Jim Davidson? About anything? It's not just that he's a horrible racist, sexist scumbag with the self awareness of the cat shit I cleaned off my astroturf earlier, it's..... Well actually it is all that, but it's also that he's NEVER been funny.
He's just a nasty, bitter dickhead who made a career out of being a nasty, bitter dickhead when telling "jokes" about people who were different was acceptable and appealed to basic, uneducated, scared people.
It is called history, fortunately as thick ***** like him can't make a living spouting bile dressed up as comedy any more. It's also called progress.
GT49er
Well-known member
No, I haven't seen the programme, but that is what I understood he said. It was acceptable at the time (even though it shouldn't have been) and that's what he did. And that's the absolute truth.
I'm not 'defending' anything - you'd have to be a bit prejudiced to think I did. What he did was considered acceptable at the time. It wouldn't be now. But when his history is being discussed, 'Chalky' was a part of his history.
HISTORY. You know, that's that stuff that's in the past. Mentioning what is in the past is essential when looking at history. Pretending it never happened, air-brushing it out, is what holocaust denial nutjobs do.
As far as I know, Davidson doesn't have much of a career any more; nor do most other 1970s comedians (those that are still alive), basically because people don't find that stuff funny any more. What happened in the 70s still happened though. And all the outrage in the world can't change that.
Yes, I completely agree that the past should be accepted for what it was. Nothing should ever be airbrushed or rewritten.
My main point was that Davidson was seen as a moronic, lowest common denominator, unfunny, dickhead at the time as well by lots of people. I remember him as a kid. My mum and every other adult I knew cringed at his stuff back then.
You highlighted me saying his material was acceptable, but not by whom. Enough people actually found him offensive at the time. Fortunately, or we'd never have moved on.
GT49er
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'You' might not have laughed 'with' the character of Alf Garnett. Millions did, and tuned in week after week not realising he was the one being ridiculed. And even back then there were some of us who didn't laugh at all - we just thought he was a nasty little shite.
Many of those millions of viewers back then would have put all three in exactly the same bracket.