He's been very 'in' and 'out' until the last few months IMO, when he has picked up the pace and started working better with Propper.
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[Albion] Albion player of the season…. So far….
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He's been very 'in' and 'out' until the last few months IMO, when he has picked up the pace and started working better with Propper.
Agreed. It probably is very close. Ryan hasn't done much wrong either.
Papa Lazarou
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Zero, really? I think Gross all day long, its just more exciting voting for an attacking player, defenders are just a bit meh, even the really good ones.
Attack Attack Attack!!!
I'm not arguing with anyone who would vote for Dunk - he has been outstanding.
I'm struggling to see how anyone could not have Gross in their top 6.
Gross.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Addressing the point about Gross being 'poor' in games, there was an interesting bit about that in the article on, (I want to say Football Rumours, but it's obvs no that)* that website that ran a feature about how important he is to the team. It picked out a couple of things that might be relevant to this discussion: 1) Gross is used to a winter break so could have been suffering from fatigue, or whatever and 2) lots of key players in the team seemed to go through a dip in form at that time, which culminated in not many points from a lot of games in January/February.
Anyway, it's SOOOO difficult to choose, but I would have to go Gross for his contribution at one end of the pitch, but also Dunk for his contribution (not the OGs!) at the other end. But then you've got Stephens in the middle – and Muzza up top*– and THAT is what makes the decision so difficult.
*I'll remember it the minute after I post it, I bet...
Anyway, it's SOOOO difficult to choose, but I would have to go Gross for his contribution at one end of the pitch, but also Dunk for his contribution (not the OGs!) at the other end. But then you've got Stephens in the middle – and Muzza up top*– and THAT is what makes the decision so difficult.
*I'll remember it the minute after I post it, I bet...
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Football WHISPERS, that's the fella. It's in here: https://whisp.rs/2Fg0ek2
And here's a story from NOVEMBER saying how great he is: https://www.footballwhispers.com/bl...medium=affiliates&utm_source=north-stand-chat
Here you go: https://whisp.rs/2Fg0ek2
"There are a lot of factors to consider when looking at the drop-off in form, especially Groß’s. The German, having played in the Bundesliga, was used to a winter break. Here in England, they don’t exist. His performances may have tailed off due to fatigue or burnout.
Furthermore, a number of his team-mates are also playing in the Premier League for the first time. A season of inconsistency was to be expected. It just so happened that a number of Albion players were out of sorts at the same time."
I can sum it up quicker.
If the wingers are playing behind the full-backs Gross is going to be 'poor' because he has 3 players marking him out of the game.
Very hard to choose between Dunk, Murray and Gross, but Dunk just about shades it for me. Honourable mention for Maty Ryan.
Trelford Mills Guide Dog
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- Jun 14, 2008
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Dunk, Ryan or Stephens ... not sure of the order though.
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I think the poll result is sound to be honest. However I would go with Murray because he is putting the ball in the net and that is the hardest thing to do in the game, particularly at the level we are at.
BensGrandad
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IMHO he hit the season running from day one and has just got better and better as the season has progressed but much of what he does to make space for others goes unnoticed by supporters as it is nothing spectacular.
Ask Big Daddy.
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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Think this might be worth a read as it doesn't really back up this slump in his performance that you keep referring to
https://www.footballwhispers.com/bl...medium=affiliates&utm_source=north-stand-chat
Edit:
Hadn't read far enough into the thread to see that this has already partially been referenced to by previous posters
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I think you can make a decent case for Ryan, Dunk, Stephens, Propper, Gross, Murray and even Izquierdo if he continues in his current form.
Ryan after a shaky start has grown into the league and is becoming the goalkeeper I hoped he would but feared he wouldn't after the first few games.
Dunk has been great pretty much every game.
Stephens and Propper have developed into a fine midfield partnership, Stephens stepping up and being as rock solid and dependable in the Premier league as he was in the championship and Propper realy getting to grips with his new role in his new team in a new league in a new country.
Gross has been a revelation. A beautiful player to watch that conjures up chnce after chance. He fires, the team fires.
Murray has perhaps been an even bigger revelation. I was confident he could do a job in the premier league but his goals have powered us into the top half of the table and to within a whisker of safety.
Izquierdo has taken his time to settle but now he has...what a player!
Ultimately though for me it comes down to a dust up between Dunk and Gross. As The Large One states Dunk has been consistently good game in game out whereas Gross has had a mid season dip in form before coming roaring back. On the flip side as good as Dunk has been his place in the team could be effectively covered by Goldson and/or Henemeir. We might not be quite as good but between them they'd do a decent job of filling in. Gross is irreplaceable. He's the catalyst for us as an attacking unit and without him we'd be ****ed. Without Dunk we'd be worse off but not ****ed. Whichever one of them wins it deserves it and whichever one misses out can justifiably be hard done by.
Also, who would have thought that you could name half a dozen or more players with a realistic shot at being player of the year and none of them are last years player of the year/championship player of the year. and no Duffy either despite him being mostly excellent again this season(he's just not been as good as Dunk...).
We are a proper team. I wonder who will get Palace's payer of the year...
Ryan after a shaky start has grown into the league and is becoming the goalkeeper I hoped he would but feared he wouldn't after the first few games.
Dunk has been great pretty much every game.
Stephens and Propper have developed into a fine midfield partnership, Stephens stepping up and being as rock solid and dependable in the Premier league as he was in the championship and Propper realy getting to grips with his new role in his new team in a new league in a new country.
Gross has been a revelation. A beautiful player to watch that conjures up chnce after chance. He fires, the team fires.
Murray has perhaps been an even bigger revelation. I was confident he could do a job in the premier league but his goals have powered us into the top half of the table and to within a whisker of safety.
Izquierdo has taken his time to settle but now he has...what a player!
Ultimately though for me it comes down to a dust up between Dunk and Gross. As The Large One states Dunk has been consistently good game in game out whereas Gross has had a mid season dip in form before coming roaring back. On the flip side as good as Dunk has been his place in the team could be effectively covered by Goldson and/or Henemeir. We might not be quite as good but between them they'd do a decent job of filling in. Gross is irreplaceable. He's the catalyst for us as an attacking unit and without him we'd be ****ed. Without Dunk we'd be worse off but not ****ed. Whichever one of them wins it deserves it and whichever one misses out can justifiably be hard done by.
Also, who would have thought that you could name half a dozen or more players with a realistic shot at being player of the year and none of them are last years player of the year/championship player of the year. and no Duffy either despite him being mostly excellent again this season(he's just not been as good as Dunk...).
We are a proper team. I wonder who will get Palace's payer of the year...