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PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
18,606
Hurst Green
You are breaking the law then. A vehicle must be insured unless it has a statutory off road notice.

With the greatest of respect. You know not what you are talking about. In fact you are talking out of your rectum.
 






RandyWanger

Je suis rôti de boeuf
Mar 14, 2013
5,994
Done a Frexit, now in London
Roads with restricted access are usually considered private. Restrictions can be put in place by erecting barriers such as a gate or fence or exhibiting a sign which prohibits the general public from accessing the road.

A defendant has no obligation to prove that a road has no public access. The heavy burden of proving that the public has access to a ‘road’ rests solely on the shoulders of the prosecution.

Not much, if anything, has changed since the court established this principle in the early 1930s. A raft of cases followed in the mid to late 70s which approved and applied this principle. A recent example of this principle being applied is the case involving someone, who was initially convicted of drink driving following a trial. He had argued, without success, that the road upon which he was driving was a ‘service road’ which was only used by him and other residents of the adjoining properties. It was also argued that there was no evidence of ‘public use’ of the road. Luckily, on appeal the High Court agreed with his assertions and his conviction was quashed.

In summary, she can drive on her 1/4 mile long drive in a car.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
49,337
Faversham
56 christ she looks about 66, still if you are single and skint you could offer to be her taxi....etc.........

And she's had a lot of work done...
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Why some people bother to post stuff they know nothing about never ceases to amaze

Doesn't that apply to every post on the Brexit thread? It certainly applies to mine :whistle::lolol:
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
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That law went out with the arc.

You are required to be licenced and insured to drive a motor vehicle in the U.K. in any situation.

Balderdash sir! I raise you little kids on off road motorcycles........
 


wellquickwoody

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GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,472
Gloucester
You are breaking the law then. A vehicle must be insured unless it has a statutory off road notice.

The key here is 'off road' - statutary or not. If it's her car on her land, to which the public has no right of access, she can do what the hell she likes with it. With a licence or without. Drunk or sober.

A European Court ruling has shed some doubt on this - but only doubt - and it is not mandatory for individual states to implement it into their law. We haven't.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sou....64.psy-ab..2.21.1525...0i131k1.0.E99JB26SjTs
 


AmexRuislip

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Feb 2, 2014
33,727
Ruislip
That law went out with the arc.

You are required to be licenced and insured to report guff in the U.K. in any situation.

Corrected for you!

It was two days after her husband funeral. I liked to think she was drowning her sorrows, but then again she could have been out celebrating!

By the looks of her in the report, she could do a good turn as a horse jumping that gate :)
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,789
Brighton
You are breaking the law then. A vehicle must be insured unless it has a statutory off road notice.

Utter crap, statutory off road notice or as we know it SORN only applies to vehicles on the public highway. "off road" or on private land licences insurance and road fund tax do not apply.
 




sams dad

I hate Palarse
Feb 7, 2004
6,383
The Hill of The Gun
That law went out with the arc.

You are required to be licenced and insured to drive a motor vehicle in the U.K. in any situation.

You are breaking the law then. A vehicle must be insured unless it has a statutory off road notice.

Talking bollocks , as usual, Timmy. I thought you would have learned by now, to keep quiet regarding things you know nothing about.
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,007
Burgess Hill
It depends on what you mean by private land. If the land is accessible to the public then you need a licence and insurance. For example, a supermarket car park is private land but you are not allowed to drive on it (permission aside) because it is accessible to others. However, if you land that the public are not allowed on and have no access then you can drive without a licence. For example, your normal front drive is private property but is accessible to the public. If you own a field with gates and no public footpaths then you can drive what you want.

With regard to the post about a driving instructor allowing youngsters to drive, he would have had the necessary cover under his ADI insurance. The organizers of the event would also have insurance.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
11,596
Cumbria
It depends on what you mean by private land. If the land is accessible to the public then you need a licence and insurance. For example, a supermarket car park is private land but you are not allowed to drive on it (permission aside) because it is accessible to others. However, if you land that the public are not allowed on and have no access then you can drive without a licence. For example, your normal front drive is private property but is accessible to the public. If you own a field with gates and no public footpaths then you can drive what you want.

With regard to the post about a driving instructor allowing youngsters to drive, he would have had the necessary cover under his ADI insurance. The organizers of the event would also have insurance.

Yes - that's right. If a driveway on private land is also a public footpath, then legally it is classed as a public highway and if you are driving on it then you have to be 'road legal' (taxed, insured, etc).
 












studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,555
On the Border
You are breaking the law then. A vehicle must be insured unless it has a statutory off road notice.

It most cases this is correct.
S144A(1) requires a motor vehicle registered under the Motor Vehicles Excise and Registration Act 1994.

If the motor vehicle is registered under the Act (is it has a licence plate) then to be exempt from insurance requirements it must have SORN in place. There are a number if other exemptions for Army vehicles etc which are not relevant.

If the motor vehicle is not registered under the Motor Vehicles Excise and Registration Act 1994 then it does not need compulsory insurance providing that it is not being used on a road or other public place.
 



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