[Albion] We have our three

scousefan · Feb 12, 2018

I think the prediction on who may go down is as good as any.

However the question of the worst three teams is not quite the same as who will actually be relegated. From what I’ve seen (and it’s not every game), the worst three teams are West Brom, West Ham and Newcastle (plus Palace at the start of the season).

At the same time, the least likely teams to get points against the best teams are us followed Huddersfield. However Huddersfield are strong at home (See the early win against Man Utd) abd play many of the bottom half teams at home in their run-in

In my opinion we are going down unless we get at least a win against Huddersfiekd abs a draw against Swansea PLUS another two wins, one of which will have to be a surprise....

Blue Valkyrie · Feb 12, 2018

Hopefully West Brom lose to Chelsea tonight, setting up a must-win-6-pointer in the last chance saloon for them at home to Huddersfield in the next game.

Triggaaar · Feb 12, 2018

sjamesb3466 said:
If we can't beat Huddersfield and Swansea at Home ... then we don't deserve to stay up.

Well so far that applies to all these teams then:

Leicester
Watford
Newcastle
Spurs
Palace
Southampton
Burnley

So they all deserve to go down.

and a injury ravaged Palace

We're not playing Palace for 2 months. Zaha is due to be back in a few weeks, I don't suppose they'll be missing many crucial players come game time.

Triggaaar · Feb 12, 2018

LamieRobertson said:
Wonder what the odds have changed to now.

11/2. Might have been higher before Newcastle's surprise win.

Triggaaar · Feb 12, 2018

fleet said:
Need Utd to turn up this afternoon now!

They did. I blame you.

LamieRobertson · Feb 12, 2018

Triggaaar said:
Well so far that applies to all these teams then:

Leicester
Watford
Newcastle
Spurs
Palace
Southampton
Burnley

So they all deserve to go down.

We're not playing Palace for 2 months. Zaha is due to be back in a few weeks, I don't suppose they'll be missing many crucial players come game time.

Which just goes to show what a daft statement that is

Triggaaar · Feb 12, 2018

LamieRobertson said:
Which just goes to show what a daft statement that is

Indeed, we get it every season - like last year, if we can't beat xxx we don't deserve to go up. Promotion and relegation are (obviously) determined over a whole season, not on one game.

The odds will be well against us winning both those home games anyway.

Not Andy Naylor · Feb 12, 2018

Bwian said:
I think that the reality is that there is little difference between the teams in the struggle. We just need to take advantage of our new striking options.

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This hits it on the nail. It's purely about what we do from here on in. Forget all the points we have dropped and what other teams do, we have to win some games, and that will often mean scoring the second goal before we sit back and await the inevitable equaliser. Our performances have shown that we're at least as good as teams like Burnley, and probably better on our day, so it's just a matter of scoring the goals to prove it.

fleet · Feb 12, 2018

Triggaaar said:
They did. I blame you.

There was some ambiguity in my use of Utd!

Triggaaar · Feb 12, 2018

fleet said:
There was some ambiguity in my use of Utd!

Oh you meant Manchester. You could have said

sjamesb3466 · Feb 12, 2018

Triggaaar said:
Indeed, we get it every season - like last year, if we can't beat xxx we don't deserve to go up. Promotion and relegation are (obviously) determined over a whole season, not on one game.

The odds will be well against us winning both those home games anyway.

It was more of a generic statement about how you have to beat the teams around you if you want to stay up. Well done for the research to make your point but the fact remains that if we beat the teams around us in the games we have left we are likely to be ok. If we don't then over the course of the season we haven't been good enough and therefore we don't deserve to stay up.

Personally I think if we beat Swansea at home we will pick up enough points in our remaining games to survive. Whilst I wouldn't go anywhere near saying we are doomed if we don't beat Swansea I think the confidence and pressure that a victory would give us going into a tough March could spur us on to some unexpected points to help the survival bid.

Triggaaar · Feb 13, 2018

sjamesb3466 said:
It was more of a generic statement about how you have to beat the teams around you if you want to stay up.

What you said was quite different to that. Check the odds, we probably won't beat Swansea, let alone win all 3 games you suggested.

Well done for the research to make your point

Thanks

but the fact remains that if we beat the teams around us in the games we have left we are likely to be ok. If we don't then over the course of the season we haven't been good enough and therefore we don't deserve to stay up.

If we win all the remaining games against the (3) teams around us, of course we will stay up. Over the course of the season you don't need to finish mid table, just 17th, so you don't need that many against the teams around you.

Personally I think if we beat Swansea at home we will pick up enough points in our remaining games to survive. Whilst I wouldn't go anywhere near saying we are doomed if we don't beat Swansea I think the confidence and pressure that a victory would give us going into a tough March could spur us on to some unexpected points to help the survival bid.

It does feel like that, Swansea is a massive game. We have a tougher run in than the others though, and we're just 2 points above Southampton, who have a better GD.

OzMike · Feb 13, 2018

I think that the final relegation place will be decided in the last game of the season.
Apart from WBA, all the next 7 or so teams could get sucked in and they do not have a lot of points difference between them.

worthingseagull123 · Feb 13, 2018

Dale Jasper said:
All season I have been thinking, ‘we need three teams to be worse than us. That is it’.

I am now convinced that these are our three. They’ve actually done alright against us, on the whole, but from what I’ve seen we are better than all of them. Especially with Ulloa, whose signing I think will prove far more telling than Locadia due to his experience.

A 1-1 against Stoke has finally convinced me, we can absolutely do this.

We have our three.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you......

West Bromwich Albion, Stoke City, Huddersfield Town

Too early to say. Any of those 3 could finish above us.

Bwian · Feb 13, 2018

OzMike said:
I think that the final relegation place will be decided in the last game of the season.
Apart from WBA, all the next 7 or so teams could get sucked in and they do not have a lot of points difference between them.

Because it's Pardew I would like WBA to take one of the three places, however, it is still only mid February and they could boing their way out of it. They do look in deep trouble but so did Palace, then Swansea. We just need to make sure that we aren't one of the teams that loses form (Such as ours is) at the wrong time.

I don't recall a PL season where the fear of relegation has affected and is affecting so many teams.

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jevs · Feb 13, 2018

https://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/predictor

OzMike · Feb 13, 2018

jevs said:
https://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/predictor

I just went through this and my predictions came out as us finishing in 16th position, with a goal difference of -32 and with 37 points.
Palace, Stains, Stoke and WBA are below us in that order.
We live in hope, though Palace still just avoid relegation.

DJ NOBO · Feb 13, 2018

worthingseagull123 said:
Too early to say. Any of those 3 could finish above us.

You may well be right . But imho we are better than those three teams. Doesn’t necessarily mean we will finish above them. Not how life works

Psychobilly freakout · Feb 13, 2018

jevs said:
https://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/predictor

17th 35 points

Relegated
Southampton
Swansea
WBA

MJsGhost · Feb 13, 2018

Squeaky bum time!

Edit: Balls, I copied the wrong table... and I've closed the window!

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