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[News] The First Briton



vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,867
Jeez, you do post some bollox.


I saw the report on the BBC this morning, I thought it amusing that a ‘true ancient Brit ‘ was dark skinned and believed to come from the Middle East. I thought the parallels with the migration climate today, and particularly Britain First response was rather ironic. I posted it on a football forum.
I’m not trying to start a Red revolution, I’m not trying to start a political war with neo nazis, the irony of it, just amused me, in my simple way.
I very rarely read your post, because, well, how can I put this, you’re a bit strange, unless they are directed at me, this one was.
Anyway, I’m off to start a Communist sleeper cell in my Mums W.I meeting

Chin Chin.

Oh, and by the way, point 2, what poll would you suggest?

Do you think Britain Fiirst is happy the first Briton was a dark skinned immigrant?

Yes


No

Really couldn’t give a toss what some sad right wing dickheads think
This.
 


Winker

CUM ON FEEL THE NOIZE
Jul 14, 2008
2,372
The Astral Planes, man...
10,000 years is not very long in evolutionary terms, so turning from black to white seems unlikely in that time-span. Especially as we had been separated from mainland europe for 20,000 years before that by the melting ice-caps, which would have hindered migration.

It's a no from me.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,673
Worthing
10,000 years is not very long in evolutionary terms, so turning from black to white seems unlikely in that time-span. Especially as we had been separated from mainland europe for 20,000 years before that by the melting ice-caps, which would have hindered migration.

It's a no from me.


Michael Jackson turned from black to white in about five years
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,179
"shrill crimping"
"Grauniad"
"non whites"
"women"
"Valid sources"
"Brietbart"
"OP Narrative".
"Target and personalise"
"politicly hijack"
"trolls"
"nuances of forum dynamics"
"tardpiled"

Can I suggest maybe a couple of days a week you don't turn up your computer, avoid the internet and maybe go a for a walk in the fresh air ?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,867




PILTDOWN MAN

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NSC Patreon
Sep 15, 2004
18,608
Hurst Green
10,000 years is not very long in evolutionary terms, so turning from black to white seems unlikely in that time-span. Especially as we had been separated from mainland europe for 20,000 years before that by the melting ice-caps, which would have hindered migration.

It's a no from me.

Perhaps it rained a bit.
 




Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,276
I doubt it will make much difference. Most 'racists' are, for want of a better word, culturists. It's not so much the colour of a persons skin that's the issue rather their way of life, their culture. Colour is, or has been, a handy signifier for them but is not the be all and end all. I'm sure they'll carry on with their beliefs whatever colour Cheddar man was.

There have already been one or two posts in this thread that highlight this.


Disagree.
Skin colour is the single biggest factor by miles. Any shade darker than ' pink ' and the prejudice kicks in, with many people.
 




Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,276
People from different cultures do, and would further intergrate well, if the naive intolerance you and other backward thinking people (eg Isis, kkk, Britain first) seem to possess was eliminated.

It is time for the world to wake up. People are people.

The inability to speak or understand the native tongue is the single biggest factor in lack of integration. Some immigrants enter this country unable to speak a word of English or understand even the most basic level of communication. They immediately gravitate to areas of familiarity and stay there. Ten years later, they still barely speak a word of English and feel no need to make the effort. Cue...no go areas and ghettos.
 


Tom Bombadil

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
6,024
Jibrovia
The outrage from the right wing nutjobs on here is a wonder to behold.What's that phrase they use, oh yes triggered snowflakes.
 


jonnyrovers

mostly tinpot
Aug 13, 2013
1,181
Shoreham-by-Sea
The inability to speak or understand the native tongue is the single biggest factor in lack of integration. Some immigrants enter this country unable to speak a word of English or understand even the most basic level of communication. They immediately gravitate to areas of familiarity and stay there. Ten years later, they still barely speak a word of English and feel no need to make the effort. Cue...no go areas and ghettos.

I’ve just visited English friends who’ve been living in Switzerland for 8 years. The only German speakers in the family are their kids, they live in a community of multi national ex pats with very few Swiss, and have professional jobs in Zürich. They experience zero local animosity and regularly socialise with Swiss colleagues.

The language barrier you describe is somehow not at play in their situation. Any idea why?


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Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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Quite ironic for Britain First , that the first Britons were dark skinned immigrants

https://t.co/h4oMUWV0qg

I wasn't aware that Britain First was anti black people. Being anti immigration is very different from being anti Black.

From their own website:

"Britain First rejects racial hatred in all its forms.

British ethnic minorities regularly attend our events and activities.

Britain First opposes Islamic extremism and mass immigration because they are a danger to the British people.

Britons from all backgrounds are welcome to join our struggle to put British people first."

https://www.britainfirst.org/racism
 






lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,673
Worthing
I wasn't aware that Britain First was anti black people. Being anti immigration is very different from being anti Black.

From their own website:

"Britain First rejects racial hatred in all its forms.

British ethnic minorities regularly attend our events and activities.

Britain First opposes Islamic extremism and mass immigration because they are a danger to the British people.

Britons from all backgrounds are welcome to join our struggle to put British people first."

https://www.britainfirst.org/racism


And you believe that?

Okay
 






Garry Nelson's Left Foot

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,055
tokyo
Disagree.
Skin colour is the single biggest factor by miles. Any shade darker than ' pink ' and the prejudice kicks in, with many people.

I'm not disputing that for some people it really is as simple as colour, they really do hold some kind of messed up Victorian era style belief in the superiority and inferiority of 'races' based purely on skin colour.

What I'm saying is that, I believe, for most people who we would describe as racist colour is a handy marker. The underlying reason is culture. I think there is a conflation between colour and culture i.e I don't like behaviour x, this behaviour is common in culture y, the people of culture y are colour z. Therefore people who are colour z do behaviour x so I don't like them. That might not be the conscious though process but it enables the classic rebuttals 'I'm not racist, I work with..x...they're a decent person.' I can't be racist I've got a...x...mate/girlfriend...'.

I believe it's basic human nature. We are all born with prejudices. Not explicit prejudices but innate ones that favour certain groups. The 'in group' and the 'out group'. As we know the 'in group' can cover many and varied things. We are on the message board of one such 'in group'. Unfortunately 'race'/culture is one such group too.

I'm not sure that I've fully explained my thinking(or even got close to being comprehensible) but it's the best I can do without composing an essay.
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,730
Brighton
Just a feeling?

You have the rightwing checklist.

1. Thread started with rightwing theme.
2"The mob" jump in hurling smears at the topic, the source or the OP.
3 Mod moves thread to other forum.

Let me elaborate..

1 Leftwing shill crimping stories from BBC/Grauniad eulogising non whites women etc etc.
Valid sources. Anything further right gets the smear treatment, Daily Mail Brietbart etc.

2 No poll to gauge popular opinion(Worth starting a thread though, irony).
This allows opponenet to be framed as a small minority, QED extremists etc.

3 Abuse hurled at people for descenting from the OP Narrative.
Or Saul Alinskys rules for radicals, ie Target and personalise the attack.


4 Moderaters only jump in when the objectors start arguing back.
This is how mods allow a small group of people to politicly hijack and attempt to police a public forum, through bias or unwittingly.

Let me give you an example.
Imagine If Bozza pinned a thread saying post something positive about the albion or you will be banned.
Straight away youve got rid of casual posters, malcontents and Palace fans. If you carry on down this road you would end up with Liz Costa style conformist superfans. Not whaats wanted. Its why trolls have Purges, to change the forum culture.

In the case of Mods here they are volunteers who are reliable, regularly online and fairly stable/not ban happy.. They are not recruited on the nuances of forum dynamics and thats an exploitable weakness, Its one thats solvable as well.

Ask yourself. Do you ever think if I offer up my opinion on a particular topicm football or otherwisem you can expect to be tardpiled? If the answer is yes then thats a forum failure.

Do you have any idea how insanely paranoid you sound?
 



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