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    Yes, but now that the facts are starting to become clear there is (particularly with labour supporters) a strong swing towards a 'Remain' mindset nationally.
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      Yes, but now that the facts are starting to become clear there is (particularly with Labour supporters) a strong swing towards a 'Remain' mindset nationally.
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      I'm right behind Jezza on this one. Hard for the Tories, as they are in opposition, to say anything on pardoning convicted suffragettes .
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      As for the feminist pardon, a lot is airbrushed but rewarding a group who advocated violence is not is something the morally grubby left like to promote but do not think it should be incouraged.

      Or identity politics.

      Screw both.
      Excellent. Airbrushing and screwing suffragettes.
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      It hardly matters what he says... despite the parlous state of the hated Tory government, his own support is deserting him.

      Westminster voting intention:

      CON: 41% (-)
      LAB: 40% (-1)
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      UKIP: 4% (-)
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      www.renewbritain.org

      Just beginning to get some coverage in the papers and social media, it will be interesting to see where this one goes.

      Most people with an iota of common sense understand exactly what those who want a second referendum on the final deal really mean.

      A second referendum is the sword of damacles that they want to hang over the Brexit negotiations and would mean the EU would offer unacceptable terms in order to trigger the said second referendum.

      These people would be more honest brokers if they said “if we get power we will simply reverse the referendum result”.........but like the politicians they want to distance themselves from they are not honest enough for that.

      Nothing new about that approach to politics.
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      I wonder if he will pardon cannabis smokers who have been convicted or imprisoned when it becomes legalised. They pardoned gay men with historical convictions and should apply the same processes when any Law is overturned in any circumstance. Should we pick and choose or employ fairness?
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      I can't believe that anyone who has half a brain cell is taken in by the relentless garbage that pours from Corbyn's mouth. The man's a complete buffoon. His only interest is to gain power at any cost. I am surprised how many people are gullible enough to support him and his thick group of lackeys.
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      Excellent. Airbrushing and screwing suffragettes.
      You need to study your history a bit better and not just the sanatised one you have been spoonfed.
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      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42951817

      Is there anything that this bloke, nah stuff it, apologist won't promise to try and get a vote? Even if he will never actually deliver.
      I'm not an expert on this subject by any means, but again my generation is probably going to apologise for something that happened well in the past. I understand that in the past women were not dealt with fairly and as second class citizens in the eyes of the law and that was wrong, but it is my generation that has to a greater extent resolved some of these issues but agreed there is still some work to do, so why must we apologise again for the actions of past generations?

      Whoever apologises also needs to be really careful they don't condone or pardon certain acts that could have been seen as potentially violent or even terrorism in the name of the Suffragette movement such as the alledged Levetleigh incident in St Leonards in 1913 and other acts as discussed here; https://news.sky.com/story/women-wou...rists-11227772

      Why not leave the past alone and work to a better future?

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