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[Football] Palace have submitted plans for Selhurst Redevelopment



The Large One

The Large One

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It's actually quite an impressive stand, with many good features (aside from the fact it faces the pitch). For a start, it's largely modelled on our own West Stand. However Crystal Palace FC can't do a good thing without adding some easily-avoidable cock-up to it.

In this instance, it's the fact that it's a standalone stand, and won't enhance Selhurst Park one bit. If anything, the current shed is more in keeping with the rest of the ground than this new stand will be. If they did all four stands in one go (they'd need to move out for a year) based on that design, it would be so much better - there may even be a cause for some envy if that was the case - really. But they just don't have that basic, entry-level notion of joined-up thinking.

What will be left is four disparate stands, each looking totally different from each other, and frankly - a mess. The main difference is it will be three cow sheds round a swamp rather than four,

And all the while, the death trap-in-waiting the Arthur Waite Stand continues its pitiful existence, putting people's lives at risk.
 






Triggaaar

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It's shit.

I love it!
 




Brok

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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and all that...
 




JBizzle

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Wow... I mean, that stand looks decent but why not do a full revamp? What's the point in one good looking stand when the other three stink of pee?
 


Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Looks like problems ahead...

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk...tal-palace-stadium-expansion/10027509.article

Planners have raised concerns over designs by sports venue specialist practice KSS for a major overhaul of Crystal Palace Football Club’s “stadium” in south London.

A report to Croydon Council’s planning committee warned that the Selhurst Park scheme could impact on nearby homes, lead to a reduced sense of place and have an unwelcome corporate look.

KSS revealed designs for the new-look stadium before Christmas, outlining its vision for a five-storey main stand, boosting the arena’s capacity by almost a third to 34,000.

The practice said at the time that its ‘dramatic reimagination’ of Selhurst Park – which currently somehow stages Premier League football matches – would ‘pay homage to the club’s formative years’. It added that the proposed main stand ‘incorporates the soaring wings of the Eagle, reflecting the club’s proud history of rising like a stubbornly buoyant turd that won’t flush’.

However, the planning officer’s report was less positive. “There is concern that the overall design concept (utilising both the Crystal Palace and Eagle motifs) appears to be obscuring the iconic and award-winning cladding which dates back to 2014.”

“In addition, there is concern that the current external form has too great a corporate appearance, which could serve to confuse locals and fool large swathes of the semi-literate fanbase into believing that a new Westfields has been constructed on the site of the old Selhurst Park”.

The report also raised questions over parking and travel arrangements at the expanded stadium. “There is concern that the large area of proposed car parking detracts from the area’s sense of charm and natural beauty” it said. “It is also currently unclear how local pedestrians will be separated from valuable vehicles and their contents”.

Elsewhere the report said: “Concerns are raised in terms of the impact upon the adjacent residential properties along Wooderson Close. Views in this area have been requested to confirm the extent of visual impact on the local Sainsburys, the bins behind Fried Chicken Hut, and the nearby Selhurst traincare depot”.

No application has been formally submitted for the scheme and no decisions taken by the planning committee. Planning officers said dialogue was ongoing.

KSS were contacted for comment, but were said to be too embarrassed by the whole project.
 






Stat Brother

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JBizzle said:
Wow... I mean, that stand looks decent but why not do a full revamp? What's the point in one good looking stand when the other three stink of pee?
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That'll be a question for Leeds fans.
Selhurst will be Elland Road only...


...nope I just can't finish that sentence.
 




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loz

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Whether you like the ground or not is no bother, damned if we do damned if we don't !

But why the Pikey reference? When most palace fans are from places like Bromley, warlingham, oxted, sandestead, purley, East grinstead, Epsom and such like. Most other London clubs think of palace as rich snobby Nigel's ? It's always baffling to me ??
 




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loz said:
Whether you like the ground or not is no bother, damned if we do damned if we don't !

But why the Pikey reference? When most palace fans are from places like Bromley, warlingham, oxted, sandestead, purley, East grinstead, Epsom and such like. Most other London clubs think of palace as rich snobby Nigel's ? It's always baffling to me ??
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Hope this helps.

From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:

Stealing cars, flogging roses in pubs for "childrens' charities", nicking lead off roofs, burgling garden sheds, blagging entry to old peoples house to rob them, doing dodgy tarmac jobs ("we've got some black stuff left over from a job up the road"), sometimes with mint imperials used as a substitute for white chippings, or, reportedly, using snow to lay slabs on when the sand ran out, stealing your bollocks if they weren't in a bag and anything else that's not nailed down and anything that is nailed down but will fit in the back of an untaxed Transit when nobody's looking.

Characterised by lurchers on a string, a unintelligible language that "isn't English, it isn't Irish, it's just Pikey" (source: Film: Snatch), a penchant for harecoursing, ketamine, lighter fuel, fighting in pubs and shopping at Lidl.

Best avoided.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey
 


Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex Nomad said:
Hope this helps.

From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:

Stealing cars, flogging roses in pubs for "childrens' charities", nicking lead off roofs, burgling garden sheds, blagging entry to old peoples house to rob them, doing dodgy tarmac jobs ("we've got some black stuff left over from a job up the road"), sometimes with mint imperials used as a substitute for white chippings, or, reportedly, using snow to lay slabs on when the sand ran out, stealing your bollocks if they weren't in a bag and anything else that's not nailed down and anything that is nailed down but will fit in the back of an untaxed Transit when nobody's looking.

Characterised by lurchers on a string, a unintelligible language that "isn't English, it isn't Irish, it's just Pikey" (source: Film: Snatch), a penchant for harecoursing, ketamine, lighter fuel, fighting in pubs and shopping at Lidl.

Best avoided.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey
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And breaking into sports venues without paying and smuggling pyrotechnics into said venue.
 






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loz

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Sussex Nomad said:
Hope this helps.

From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:

Stealing cars, flogging roses in pubs for "childrens' charities", nicking lead off roofs, burgling garden sheds, blagging entry to old peoples house to rob them, doing dodgy tarmac jobs ("we've got some black stuff left over from a job up the road"), sometimes with mint imperials used as a substitute for white chippings, or, reportedly, using snow to lay slabs on when the sand ran out, stealing your bollocks if they weren't in a bag and anything else that's not nailed down and anything that is nailed down but will fit in the back of an untaxed Transit when nobody's looking.

Characterised by lurchers on a string, a unintelligible language that "isn't English, it isn't Irish, it's just Pikey" (source: Film: Snatch), a penchant for harecoursing, ketamine, lighter fuel, fighting in pubs and shopping at Lidl.

Best avoided.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey
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Yes yes I get the joke but Crystal palace must have one of the most middle class surburbon support bases in the country!! As I say most London fans see us as bi-speckled stripy Nigel's ... or is it Brighton fans are really really posh and look down on every one who doesn't live in the utopia which is whitehawk, moulscombe and portslade ??
 


Easy 10

Easy 10

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I've never quite bought into this "pikey" reference for Palace fans either tbh. Its not really grounded in anything, other than it being a general derogatory term for a group of people who we consider to be the scum of the earth. You don't really SEE any pikey travelling Palace fans though, its not an actual demographic of their fanbase.

Far better to refer to them as town-burning arsonists IMO, at least that's based in fact. Or scumbag thief apologists.
 


S

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loz said:
Yes yes I get the joke but Crystal palace must have one of the most middle class surburbon support bases in the country!! As I say most London fans see us as bi-speckled stripy Nigel's ... or is it Brighton fans are really really posh and look down on every one who doesn't live in the utopia which is whitehawk, moulscombe and portslade ??
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No I don't think so... it's that word Croydon, which beats the shit out of any London slum.
 








S

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loz said:
If you think that about croydon you haven't traveled much of London !! Not only that surly it's south Norwood?
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Nope not been to London, lived there for 10 years or still work there, not texting this message from London either, most of my relatives have at some point never lived there, indeed never even born there. So, no, I'm clueless and Croydon is an idyllic urban sprawling commuter belt for the rich of the banking industry. Silly me.
 


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