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[Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,312
so you deny what other voices in the Labour Party are saying, or concerns raised in Chakrabarti Inquiry? they're doing it for the Tory party are they?
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Would you care to point out any instances of anti semitism that have occurred in the last 3 months that have caused this explosion of outrage
Would it make any difference? Even the Dear Leader has acknowledged antisemitism has been on the increase in the Labour Party.
Labour MP's, Labour party members, the Jewish community all say there is a problem .. what's your threshold for acknowledging there is a problem?
Biscuit Barrel
Well-known member
Jeremy Corbyn has also now apologized on a number of occasions for anti semitism within the laour party. Are you saying that JC is really a Tory mole that was placed in the party over 35 years ago to help win a local election in the future?
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
How about this zinger, fresh from the oven? Stan Keable, expelled from the party for anti-Semitism but still a senior figure in both Labour against the Witch-hunt and Jewish Voice for Labour. He's been recorded yesterday telling a protester that anti-Semitism didn't cause the Holocaust and Zionists collaborated with the Nazis.Would you care to point out any instances of anti semitism that have occurred in the last 3 months that have caused this explosion of outrage
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Is this evidence enough?
mikeyjh
Well-known member
A couple of things - 1) The positive is that the cynical use of the hysteria being whipped up, will not work. 2) The perceived 'upsurge' is precisely that, perceived. Clearly, Corbyn has no choice but to respond.
Finally, what is it precisely about anti-semitism that upsets many on here to a far great degree than, let's grab an example, the rampant misogyny on this board and elsewhere?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Didn't think you would or could , shows what a gormless Tory TROLL you are
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Call me a sentimental fool but seeing photos of what happened the last time anti-Semitism went unchecked makes me a tad uneasy.
Also, Tony Bloom is of that persuasion so it's in every Brighton fan's best interests to make sure he doesn't jack it all in and move to Australia.
But mainly it's the Holocaust thing.
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Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
You've posted a tweet from Jewish Voice of Labour that he undoubtedly had a hand in drafting.What more can anyone do but expel them
To all intents and purposes he's still part of the Labour Party when useful idiots like you unwittingly keep him relevant.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
melias shoes
Well-known member
- Oct 14, 2010
- 4,830
The thing is they see Corbyn as the solution when in fact he's the problem.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Smear? Are you saying I'm smearing him as anti-Semitic by posting a video of him being anti-Semitic?So what idiot are you then in believing this smear
You must be exhausted keeping in character like this.
looney
Banned
- Jul 7, 2003
- 15,652
Anti-Semitism is exploding across the political spectrum, especially on the political right and this includes T May allowing the Al Quds march, its rampant on centre right groups on social media. Why the left is in denial isn't much of a mystery, millions of voters imported with an anti-Semitic culture.
Yea you've got reason imo to be uneasy.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
1) People who attempt to dismiss concerns by Labour MP's, Labour party members and the Jewish community as 'hysteria' are part of the problem and complicit in allowing antisemitism to grow.
2.) The Jewish Labour Movement say there is a 'vast backlog' of complaints. The implication being Corbyn is only going through the motions and doesn't think there is a problem.
Good grief ....
midnight_rendezvous
Well-known member
A statement from Jewish Labour members on the current attacks on Jeremy Corbyn
[updated at 22.40]
We are Jews in the Labour Party currently actively campaigning for Labour in local elections. We are appalled by the actions and statements of the Board of Deputies. They do not represent us or the many Jews in the Party who share Jeremy Corbyn’s vision for social justice and fairness. Jeremy’s consistent commitment to anti-racism is all the more needed now.
As the British people call time on May and the Tories, they are getting more desperate. We would hope that any organisation claiming to represent Jews would be calling them to account when, to cite two examples in the last two months, the Prime Minister‘s ex Chief of Staff uses a national newspaper to dredge up an antisemitic conspiracy theory, and Havering Conservative party issues a dogwhistle leaflet hoping to mobilise racism in their local election campaign. The Board of Deputies has been silent on both. It also says nothing on the global rise of the far right and the toxic anti-immigrant rhetoric of the tabloid press, despite the imperative from Jewish history to speak out against racism and fascism.
The Board of Deputies and those supporting them must be aware that this is an attempt to influence local elections and has nothing to do with the real and necessary task of challenging racism and anti-semitism at all levels of political life. We call on them to stop playing politics and start representing what our community needs. We believe that is best represented by the politics we fight for and hope to see win on May 3rd.
Signed
Jenny Mason and Leah Levane co-chairs of JVL, on behalf of Jewish Voice for Labour
Jewish Socialist Group
Sue Lukes Labour council candidate, Islington North CLP
Joseph Finlay Enfield Southgate CLP
Lev Taylor Camberwell and Peckham CLP
Stephen Marks Oxford District Labour Party
Richard Kuper Holborn & St Pancras CLP
Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, Chingford and Woodford Green CLP
Cllr Mike Howard Hastings & Rye CLP
Glyn Secker
Dave Rosenberg Islington North CLP Convenor Cable Street 80
Julia Bard Islington North CLP
Ian Saville, Brent Central CLP
Lara Johnson. Bracknell CLP
Ivor Dembina Vauxhall CLP
Pam Laurance, Brent Central CLP
Pauline Laurance, Finchley and Golders Green CLP
Miriam Yagud Stroud CLP
Miri Franklin
Dorothy Macedo Worthing West CLP
Alice Bondi, Penrith and the Border CLP
Sue Hughes Hornsey & Wood Green. CLP
Angie Mindel Nottingham East CLP
Paul Halas Stroud CLP
Ruth Appleton, Holborn & St Pancras CLP
Susan Pashkoff, Leyton and Wanstead CLP
[updated at 22.40]
We are Jews in the Labour Party currently actively campaigning for Labour in local elections. We are appalled by the actions and statements of the Board of Deputies. They do not represent us or the many Jews in the Party who share Jeremy Corbyn’s vision for social justice and fairness. Jeremy’s consistent commitment to anti-racism is all the more needed now.
As the British people call time on May and the Tories, they are getting more desperate. We would hope that any organisation claiming to represent Jews would be calling them to account when, to cite two examples in the last two months, the Prime Minister‘s ex Chief of Staff uses a national newspaper to dredge up an antisemitic conspiracy theory, and Havering Conservative party issues a dogwhistle leaflet hoping to mobilise racism in their local election campaign. The Board of Deputies has been silent on both. It also says nothing on the global rise of the far right and the toxic anti-immigrant rhetoric of the tabloid press, despite the imperative from Jewish history to speak out against racism and fascism.
The Board of Deputies and those supporting them must be aware that this is an attempt to influence local elections and has nothing to do with the real and necessary task of challenging racism and anti-semitism at all levels of political life. We call on them to stop playing politics and start representing what our community needs. We believe that is best represented by the politics we fight for and hope to see win on May 3rd.
Signed
Jenny Mason and Leah Levane co-chairs of JVL, on behalf of Jewish Voice for Labour
Jewish Socialist Group
Sue Lukes Labour council candidate, Islington North CLP
Joseph Finlay Enfield Southgate CLP
Lev Taylor Camberwell and Peckham CLP
Stephen Marks Oxford District Labour Party
Richard Kuper Holborn & St Pancras CLP
Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, Chingford and Woodford Green CLP
Cllr Mike Howard Hastings & Rye CLP
Glyn Secker
Dave Rosenberg Islington North CLP Convenor Cable Street 80
Julia Bard Islington North CLP
Ian Saville, Brent Central CLP
Lara Johnson. Bracknell CLP
Ivor Dembina Vauxhall CLP
Pam Laurance, Brent Central CLP
Pauline Laurance, Finchley and Golders Green CLP
Miriam Yagud Stroud CLP
Miri Franklin
Dorothy Macedo Worthing West CLP
Alice Bondi, Penrith and the Border CLP
Sue Hughes Hornsey & Wood Green. CLP
Angie Mindel Nottingham East CLP
Paul Halas Stroud CLP
Ruth Appleton, Holborn & St Pancras CLP
Susan Pashkoff, Leyton and Wanstead CLP
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
- 31,981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuorv91vCVoSo what idiot are you then in believing this smear
regards
DR
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Momentum whipping up some support I guess
The Merry Prankster
Pactum serva
I think this is really unfair. The Party has expelled him. Corbyn has no control over these othe groups neither does the Party. There is a huge backlog of complaints in the Party which is entirely due to the Right having abused the system to keep members from being eligible to vote for Corbyn.
One of the things that really concerns me at the moment across the political spectrum is abuse of process and the rule of law. The Labour Party does need to deal with anti-semetism, having said I’d never come across it I had to report someone for it yesterday (and came up against some staggering ignorance where he was unaware that what he was saying was hugely anti-Semitic). He’ll be suspended and wait 18 months for a hearing when he’ll be expelled and people will moan about how long it took and how Corbyn doesn’t take it seriously when the whole system is bunged up by people who have abandoned decency (for want of better word) and think that winning at all and any cost is what matters.