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[Football] Watford sack Silva



Weststander

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Well, they haven’t won in an age, and if Southampton get a result they will only be 3 points off the bottom 3

Quoting league positions this season is pointless because from 10th down there is nothing in it, in 2 weeks the way they are going they could easily be in the relegation zone

:thumbsup:

Intelligent post.

In the same way that the league table in October was completely meaningless, but the arrogant thought Palace and West Ham were as good as relegated, and that we comfortably mid table.
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Crazy decision, especially this late in the transfer window gives the new manager very limited time to know the squad and identify what needs to change and who he'd like to change it. It could work out to our advantage in that respect. They've been on the slide for a while, but their start to the season was excellent, they won 5, drew 2 and lost 1 of their opening 8 PL games including a win over Arsenal and a draw at Liverpool. That would have been a big part in why Silva was wanted by Everton. It looks like they've struggled when the turn around between games became shorter in late November, very similar to us in that respect. They've certainly had some discipline problems that won't have helped. Although 10th they are only 3 points ahead of us, shows just how tight it is for everyone from Watford down.
 










Sussex Nomad

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The point he is making that emphasising that tenth position doesn’t really tell the whole story...whether he should be sacked or not is open for debate...they certainly do run through managers

I think I find it wholly crazy because we are such a settled club whilst all around us are arm flinging in desperation.
 


Pavilionaire

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Watford are playing a dangerous game. Most managers taking that job would aspire to go on to a bigger job, and Watford are basically saying he got head turned and that has led to his sacking. But most Watford managers don't last that long regardless of whether they're doing a good job or not, so what do the club expect?

This shows the importance of a bit of loyalty from both sides, something that starts with the culture of a football club. Watford used to the regarded as THE family club but a few years in the Prem has eroded that culture.
 


Wardy's twin

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thought they said on MOTD that Watford had 10 players out through injury.... thats going to cripple many teams if true and appointing a new manager will not fix it
 






BLOCK F

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:thumbsup:

Intelligent post.

In the same way that the league table in October was completely meaningless, but the arrogant thought Palace and West Ham were as good as relegated, and that we comfortably mid table.

Probably more 'optimisticallly deluded' than arrogant.
 


Sussex Nomad

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I'm looking at the teams around us, sound me out if I'm wrong. Sacked managers at;
Leicester
Everton
Watford
West Ham
Palace
Stoke
West Brom
Swansea
 




Weststander

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Watford are playing a dangerous game. Most managers taking that job would aspire to go on to a bigger job, and Watford are basically saying he got head turned and that has led to his sacking. But most Watford managers don't last that long regardless of whether they're doing a good job or not, so what do the club expect?

This shows the importance of a bit of loyalty from both sides, something that starts with the culture of a football club. Watford used to the regarded as THE family club but a few years in the Prem has eroded that culture.

The desparate need to maintain £100m of extra income per annum drives this.

Watford, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Palace, Stoke, WBA, Southampton.

They all do this and they always stay up, so this ruthlessness generally works.
 


Mo Gosfield

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Loyalty counts for nothing, PL survival is everything to the owners. They are pulling the trigger before it gets even worse. New manager and one win can make all the difference. Still 42 points to play for and other teams sliding.
 


Sussex Nomad

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The desparate need to maintain £100m of extra income per annum drives this.

Watford, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Palace, Stoke, WBA, Southampton.

They all do this and they always stay up, so this ruthlessness generally works.

Hull, Sunderland, et al, don't, so it's a two sided coin.
 




Mo Gosfield

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The desparate need to maintain £100m of extra income per annum drives this.

Watford, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Palace, Stoke, WBA, Southampton.

They all do this and they always stay up, so this ruthlessness generally works.


We will stay loyal to CH and we will never know whether a change would have made a difference.
 


trueblue

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This is just seriously crazy, Watford, I mean, who the f'ck are Watford? They are 10th in the league, who wouldn't want to be 10th (outside the top 6). Why on earth would you sack your manager that is doing that kind of job? English football just gets more and more crazy.

They're 10th in the league on the basis of their start to the season. Have been one of the worst performing teams in the league since - he's not doing a good job.
 


Weststander

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Hull, Sunderland, et al, don't, so it's a two sided coin.

3 obviously must drop.

Norwich and Hull are smaller clubs, without mega rich owners, so will inevitably always drop.

Sunderland and Villa were basket cases, with internal strife for many years and hated owners.

Mboro, like Brighton, failed to buy top flight quality players.


Whereas WBA, Stoke, Southampton, Watford, Leicester, Palace, Everton, West Ham (and Bmuff without managerial changes), all know exactly what to do to stay up:
1. Have top flight quality players, even it costs.
2. Ruthlessly sacks managers.
The formula works. Many on NSC may hate a couple of those clubs, but they always stay up, minting £100m of TV money year after year. Making them financially viable entities.
 


Sussex Nomad

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3 obviously must drop.

Norwich and Hull are smaller clubs, without mega rich owners, so will inevitably always drop.

Sunderland and Villa were basket cases, with internal strife for many years and hated owners.

Mboro, like Brighton, failed to buy top flight quality players.


Whereas WBA, Stoke, Southampton, Watford, Leicester, Palace, Everton, West Ham (and Bmuff without managerial changes), all know exactly what to do to stay up:
1. Have top flight quality players, even it costs.
2. Ruthlessly sacks managers.
The formula works. Many on NSC may hate a couple of those clubs, but they always stay up, minting £100m of TV money year after year. Making them financially viable entities.

Newcastle, another point in case. It isn't about ruthlessness, as you point out, three have to go down, but I don't for one minute buy the fact that sacking your manager keeps you up.
 




AmexRuislip

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Have been talking to my Watford neighbour this morning.
He's not surprised at the decision, but surprised how quick it took.
Still thinks it's a family club, run by the ruthless headmaster in Pozzo :lolol:
 


Pavilionaire

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What about Sunderland who sacked their manager twice a season but eventually succumbed? Ditto Hull, Norwich. When multiple sacking go wrong your club can become a basket case. You don't always need to sack the manager - just look at Sean Dyche. I think a big factor is the group of players at the club and Burnley have got a grounded bunch.

Watford aren't looking to bin off Richardson, even though it's obvious he's had his head turned too.
 


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