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[Misc] Insomnia



chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,590
I really suffer as well. It's one of those things where it doesn't matter how early I go to bed, or how much sleep I've had, I will always feel tired.
Active mind seems to be the worst thing, most nights I lie there with some song from Moana (or whatever the kids are obsessed with) going round and round my head.

I've been trying the following recently:
No coffee / caffeine outside of working hours.
No screen time an hour before bed (reading instead)

Made no noticeable difference so far but a friend has done this and said it's really helped.

Both very good ideas, albeit I would knock the caffeine on the head by early afternoon, rather than the end of the working day (presuming you are a day time worker).

Also suggest:

1. Keeping the bedroom cold when you want to sleep.
2. Maintaining same bedtime/get up as much as poss. Its all about routine.
 








Tim Over Whelmed

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NSC Patron
Jul 24, 2007
10,194
Arundel
Some of the changes I made seemed to really help for me:

iPhone on charge on the landing so not near bed

No digital interaction an hour before you wish to go to sleep

Pad and pen by bed to write down anything I've remembered and need to do next day

No sleep pressure, if I have to be up early I try to go to bed early so always getting the 7 hours I seem to need

No TV in the bedroom
 






Muzzman

Pocket Rocket
NSC Patron
Jul 8, 2003
5,208
Here and There
I had the grand total of 12 hours sleep last week. Was up until 2:30am this morning. It's bloody horrible.
 


pearl

Well-known member
May 3, 2016
12,816
Behind My Eyes
Some of the changes I made seemed to really help for me:

iPhone on charge on the landing so not near bed

No digital interaction an hour before you wish to go to sleep

Pad and pen by bed to write down anything I've remembered and need to do next day

No sleep pressure, if I have to be up early I try to go to bed early so always getting the 7 hours I seem to need

No TV in the bedroom

It works for @Surf's Up

sorry
 


soistes

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Sep 12, 2012
2,643
Brighton
I don't know if it works for everyone, but I find that exercise really helps in ensuring that I get enough sleep. Since I took up running fairly seriously about three years ago (3-4 times most week, except when injured), I find that I generally fall asleep within about 5 minutes of turning off the light, and I generally get a minimum of around 7.5 hours uninterrupted sleep. The effects of exercise for me seem to over-ride whatever else I do, so caffeine, alcohol, work pressures or whatever don't seem to stop me falling asleep these days, as long as I'm running regularly. There are other advantages too - I seem to be able to eat as much as I like without putting on any weight.
 






chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,590
I don't know if it works for everyone, but I find that exercise really helps in ensuring that I get enough sleep. Since I took up running fairly seriously about three years ago (3-4 times most week, except when injured), I find that I generally fall asleep within about 5 minutes of turning off the light, and I generally get a minimum of around 7.5 hours uninterrupted sleep. The effects of exercise for me seem to over-ride whatever else I do, so caffeine, alcohol, work pressures or whatever don't seem to stop me falling asleep these days, as long as I'm running regularly. There are other advantages too - I seem to be able to eat as much as I like without putting on any weight.

If you mean exercise in the morning-very much agree. If you mean in the evening- acts liked caffeine for me! I cannot believe it when I see runners out in the dark at night, must have very different constitutions to me!
 


BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
10,911
WeHo
Not insomnia but I used to suffer from sleep apnea which really left me unsatisfied after a night's sleep. Had an unrelated tonsillectomy and that cured my sleep apnea. Feels so good to get a decent night's kip.
 








Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
30,586
Its a b1tch isnt it. Any one get it? When you are lying in bed at 2 thinking I should be asleep, ah it will be ok, Cant shut down or get in the zone, try every combination of pillows duvets and lying down positions 5 hours till the alarm goes off then alarm goes off and you havent slept a wink. GRRRRR :yawn::yawn::yawn::(

Have you tried Babestation?
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
My doctor told me to stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. If I do have a tea or coffee in the evening it is decaffeinated. Chocolate and other foodstuffs have caffeine too.

If you are persistently tired, and anyone has complained about you snoring very loudly, it might be worthwhile going to the doctors as sleep apnoea, can cause a lot of problems.
 


AmexRuislip

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Feb 2, 2014
33,823
Ruislip
My doctor told me to stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. If I do have a tea or coffee in the evening it is decaffeinated. Chocolate and other foodstuffs have caffeine too.

If you are persistently tired, and anyone has complained about you snoring very loudly, it might be worthwhile going to the doctors as sleep apnoea, can cause a lot of problems.


Certainly does :)
 


Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
8,509
Telford
Don't really suffer from amnesia but I have a terrible time getting back to sleep if I've woken up. Happened the other day; woke up at 3am desperately thirsty, got up and had a drink and then was wide awake.

Not saying you have, but being desperately thirsty during the night in one key indicator symptom of diabetes - are you also passing water in the night too?
It's a very quick and simple test at your GP, take a wee-sample - 1st one in the morning [aka fasting] is best - GP will tell you in 20 seconds if you HAVEN'T got diabetes - if your wee is high in sugar, then a finger prick for a tiny droplet of blood on to what's called a "BM stick" in a small hand-held meter will confirm if you have some sort of diabetes. If this indicates elevated blood glucose level [above 8-9 M/MOLs] then you just might have diabetes - GP will refer you to hospital specialist diabetes team for full diagnosis.

1 in 10 of the UK population are now diabetic with an estimated 1 million walking around undiagnosed - undiagnosed diabetes can be a killer - so for the sake of a few minutes, get yourself checked out.

No wish to scare-monger, but better to be safe than sorry and weeing in the night [without having put away a gallon of beer] is a key indicator for raising suspicion ...

Feel free to PM me - I've been type 1 [insulin dependent] for 25 years [diagnosed at 32] and Mrs SS was diagnosed with type 1 last year.

EDIT: feeling very lethargic / tired can also be an indicator of high blood glucose [aka untreated diabetes]
 






pearl

Well-known member
May 3, 2016
12,816
Behind My Eyes
My doctor told me to stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. If I do have a tea or coffee in the evening it is decaffeinated. Chocolate and other foodstuffs have caffeine too.

If you are persistently tired, and anyone has complained about you snoring very loudly, it might be worthwhile going to the doctors as sleep apnoea, can cause a lot of problems.

does cocoa contain caffeine?! whenever I drink it at night I feel hyper, like I've drank an expresso
 


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