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    Rooney Rule (Chris Hughton for England)


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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42623021

    So given that Chris is the only top flight manager that ticks the BAME box, do you think we'll lose him to Engerlaand after the world cup this year?

    By what has been said, he'll have to be interviewed at least...

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      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42623021

      So given that Chris is the only top flight manager that ticks the BAME box, do you think we'll lose him to Engerlaand after the world cup this year?

      By what has been said, he'll have to be interviewed at least...
      Doesn't necessarily mean Hughton would be interviewed- whilst there aren't many BAME managers at the top level currently, it doesn't mean retired England players of BAME backgrounds might not apply and- if they had the requisite badges, presumably- get on the list.
      The lady has foolishly attempted to join the conversation with a wild and dangerous opinion of her own. What half-baked drivel! See how the men look at her with utter contempt.
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      Firstly, I don’t think Southgate will lose his job. Even if he did I think Hughton would deserve an interview based upon his experience if England were looking for an English manager (I know he played for Ireland but he was born in England). So I don’t think the Rooney rule would make a difference here
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      Ridiculous decision, how about interviewing the most suitable candidates instead of an exercise in 'inclusiveness.' Does this mean Paul Ince will get an interview?
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      Ridiculous decision, how about interviewing the most suitable candidates instead of an exercise in 'inclusiveness.' Does this mean Paul Ince will get an interview?
      Ridiculous IMO. Football in this country is possibly the cleanest meritocracy of any industry. Teams would sign a Green skinned North Korean clone if he guaranteed them 25 goals a season. Why would they turn down a supremely talented Manager regardless of race or creed? If CH left does anyone think he would be short of offers? There must be a reason why there aren't more BAME managers but I do not believe it is racism especially at the top level. There is too much money at stake for that....
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      Ridiculous decision, how about interviewing the most suitable candidates instead of an exercise in 'inclusiveness.' Does this mean Paul Ince will get an interview?
      You need to read this properly. All it's saying is that they will interview a minimum of one suitably qualified BAME candidate for a given role. It doesn't mean this will be at the expense of other (white) candidates. Nor does it mean those who aren't qualified will be interviewed as some kind of tokenism. They can shortlist as many people, of any ethnic background, as they like (and presumably the shortlist will, regardless of this rule, still be massively dominated by white men).

      Nobody is going to miss out here, there's no need for you to panic.
      The lady has foolishly attempted to join the conversation with a wild and dangerous opinion of her own. What half-baked drivel! See how the men look at her with utter contempt.
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      There must be a reason why there aren't more BAME managers but I do not believe it is racism especially at the top level. There is too much money at stake for that....
      Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but don't we at least owe it to people to make sure things are being done objectively? There is such a thing as subconscious bias, which can be every bit as influential in decision-making as any sort of overt racist view. In the Premier League and Football League, we regularly see the same old tired managerial candidates being hired, no matter how badly their previous jobs went, which does rather hint that there's a bit of an old boys network in place (I'm not saying that in itself is racist, merely that it lessens the chances of anybody outside their circle of chums breaking into the industry).

      I think this is a positive thing. It doesn't harm anybody else, and it might just cause a few people of BAME origin to think positively about what they can offer the game, rather than assuming they'll never have a chance.
      The lady has foolishly attempted to join the conversation with a wild and dangerous opinion of her own. What half-baked drivel! See how the men look at her with utter contempt.
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      Unless they’re saying the majority of club owners are racist, they’re not fixing the issue. There’s too much money in football to not pick a BAME manager if he’s the best person available.

      We need to do more to encourage BAME to take their coaching badges and get on the scene. But forcing clubs to have to take BAME people in interviews doesn’t seem the right way to go about the problem.
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      You need to read this properly. All it's saying is that they will interview a minimum of one suitably qualified BAME candidate for a given role. It doesn't mean this will be at the expense of other (white) candidates. Nor does it mean those who aren't qualified will be interviewed as some kind of tokenism. They can shortlist as many people, of any ethnic background, as they like (and presumably the shortlist will, regardless of this rule, still be massively dominated by white men).

      Nobody is going to miss out here, there's no need for you to panic.
      I didn't state that i thought anyone was going to 'miss out' nor do i say i was in a 'panic.'

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