GoingUp
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I think Joe Hart should be England's 3rd choice keeper personally, with Pickford and Butland in front of him.
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[Football] The sad demise of Joe Hart
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Butch Willykins
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I can’t believe Antti Niemi hasn’t been called up to the England Squad......
Behind Heaton and Forster for me
Norman Potting
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Could Ryan qualify as Australia was once in the British Empire 
Farehamseagull
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Have you seen Forster this season?!
Of course if Stockdale had stayed at Brighton and was playing in the first team .... but he didn’t. Bad career choice.
Jim Van Winkle
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Or Manuel Almunia
Yes have you seen Hart
Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Could Ryan qualify as Australia was once in the British Empire
Too tiny to be an England keeper even if we could rush through a change in nationality. It would be like having Ronnie Corbett in goal.
TWOCHOICEStom
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Hart is class. There's no need to claim he's lost it just because he's not had a great season. What about every other player who drifts in/out of form? Goalkeepers are expected to maintain higher standards than almost anyone on the pitch and the smallest mistakes are very costly.
Butland and Pickford are both very good too.
There's no sad demise. Just that we've actually got a decent set of English goalkeepers for the first time in a while!
Butland and Pickford are both very good too.
There's no sad demise. Just that we've actually got a decent set of English goalkeepers for the first time in a while!
It's been a culmination of a number of years of decline though, not just the last 18 months. Pellegrino dropped him for Pantillimon in about 2014 and took a month to get his place back I seem to recall. Then he lost his place again to Caballero a year later, then was sent to Torino, then West Ham. His form and confidence have been dropping for about 4 years, that's not the mindset to be taking with you to a World Cup in my opinion.
He's one of our 3 best keepers, yes, but Pickford and Butland are both better and more consistent.
Scott Carson?
MattBackHome
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Hart is terrible.
Lloris is very very good.
Pickford is England No.1
BG is, with respect, completely insane.
Lloris is very very good.
Pickford is England No.1
BG is, with respect, completely insane.
Gull & Chips
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- Nov 30, 2017
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did you see Pickford on friday ? if thats Englands finest we may as well recall rooney !!!
People defending Hart have clearly not watched him play recently, I cant claim to have seen more than a couple of games last season when he was at Torino but he is not the player some people still believe he is.
Hopefully Southgate gives Pickford or Butland a chance before the World Cup to stake a claim.
Hopefully Southgate gives Pickford or Butland a chance before the World Cup to stake a claim.
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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I'm slightly confused about the clamour of some to have him as England's number 1 still. He has clear deficiencies in his game that have cost his teams time and again when it really matters. Yes, he did well enough in qualifying, but he barely faced a challenge of note. His inability to dive properly to one side and when dealing with shots from distance really should have been eradicated a long time ago, but they haven't been and illustrate his lack of progress - it just isn't good enough.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...one-significant-weak-spot-opposition-players/ - this is just one of numerous online pieces of information to support the argument. Go on youtube and you'll find enough clips of his weaknesses to further support it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...one-significant-weak-spot-opposition-players/ - this is just one of numerous online pieces of information to support the argument. Go on youtube and you'll find enough clips of his weaknesses to further support it.
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Farehamseagull
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Yes and I'd still pick him ahead of Forster! Forster has been absolutely dreadful for about a year now and was finally dropped by the scummers last week. Did us a favour though by pushing Murray's header into the net.
Hopefully neither of them will be in the squad though. Pickford, Butland, Heaton and Pope should all be ahead of them. Hart might be a decent third choice just for his experience and I think he's a good bloke.
Especially when he's clearly losing his hair. Very brave...