[NSC] Ladies First - Sexist Slur??

Pavilionaire · Jan 6, 2018

Meanwhile in the rest of the world people are dying and starving and stuff.

It's the triviality of this equality debate that gets me. Is there really an issue here??

Bladders · Jan 6, 2018

Not for me , if they’re too feeble to open a door for themselves then they can stay out in the cold for all I care

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e77 · Jan 6, 2018

I hang around quite a lot of left wing people and I have never heard this discussed as being a problem in life.

Big G · Jan 6, 2018

BadFish said:
Going on the tone of the posts on this thread there is only one person arguing and getting offended in the pursuit of their crusade.

Gone through the posts and clearly seeing numerous responses of same nature so quite what you’re trapping off about I don’t know?

Eeyore · Jan 6, 2018

Sorry, what was the original point being made ?

Ladies first ? No, not really. Unless there is reason for it, of course. Other than that it's common courtesy to open doors etc for one and all.

5mins-from-amex · Jan 6, 2018

I was brought up to respect women and be a gentleman, if in doing so I'm now seen as a sexist then so be it... my GF loves the way I treat her.

Megazone · Jan 7, 2018

I've got a strict 'Gentleman first' policy in my family. The women don't complain. Everyone's happy. Job done.

I don't see the harm in selecting a specific gender to go first in life, if it be women or men (men preferably). Therefore, saying "ladies first" isn't sexiest at all, but just plain stupid.

5mins-from-amex · Jan 7, 2018

Megazone said:
I've got a strict 'Gentleman first' policy in my family. The women don't complain. Everyone's happy. Job done.

I don't see the harm in selecting a specific gender to go first in life, if it be women or men (men preferably). Therefore, saying "ladies first" isn't sexiest at all, but just plain stupid.

Millennial?

Creaky · Jan 7, 2018

I’m also old fashioned and will open a door for others and allow them to go first - I use the P&R and regularly offer my seat to those obviously in greater need of a seat than myself, (despite not being the healthiest myself). I have not once seen any youngster do the same and I think that’s a shame.

5mins-from-amex · Jan 7, 2018

Creaky said:
I’m also old fashioned and will open a door for others and allow them to go first - I use the P&R and regularly offer my seat to those obviously in greater need of a seat than myself, (despite not being the healthiest myself). I have not once seen any youngster do the same and I think that’s a shame.

Sign of the times, unfortunately manners and politeness seem to be seen as unfashionable. shame.

Herr Tubthumper · Jan 7, 2018

Parents with children is the “first” which frustrates me. For example, why should they get for free the same priority I have to earn/pay for on airlines? I appreciate kids are difficult to carry around etc but you should try carrying some of the shit I have to....it’s not easy.

5mins-from-amex · Jan 7, 2018

Herr Tubthumper said:
Parents with children is the “first” which frustrates me. For example, why should they get for free the same priority I have to earn/pay for on airlines? I appreciate kids are difficult to carry around etc but you should try carrying some of the shit I have to....it’s not easy.

Been reading your posts for years now HT and you still crack me up lol.

Herr Tubthumper · Jan 7, 2018

5mins-from-amex said:
Been reading your posts for years now HT and you still crack me up lol.

I’m pleased some people get my “humour” :thumbsup:

5mins-from-amex · Jan 7, 2018

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’m pleased some people get my “humour”

Wouldn't happen in Germany...

Live by the sea · Jan 7, 2018

I’ve always done Lesbians first but now i’ve Decided trans gender first then lesbians, followed by heterosexual ladies just to make sure that I’m in line with all the Guardian readers.

happypig · Jan 7, 2018

I got sacked for standing aside and saying "Ladies first".

Shame, I used to enjoy clearing land mines.

Baker lite · Jan 7, 2018

crodonilson said:
Anyone see the excellent ‘This Morning’ yesterday morning? A hot debate over whether saying ‘ladies first’ is sexist? Seems the majority thought it was, what are NSCs thoughts?

Offered my seat on the tube to a woman before Christmas,
"Are you offering a seat because I'm a woman."
Me"no, I'm offering to give You My seat because you're pregnant."She quite clearly wasn't pregnant,just a salad dodger but it wiped the smug expression off the fat ***** grid.

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Iggle Piggle · Jan 7, 2018

Slightly different problem for me. On the way into work, someone may hold the door open for you for which I will say Thanks. There is another door directly after, followed by a 3rd fire door immediately after that and up to 3 more if they work in the same direction as I do.

I sometimes stop for a hit and miss to avoid the Door 'Thanks 'Your welcome' cherade where we keep repeating the same thing.

As for this debate, it's pointless bollocks. It detracts from real issues like why my wife won't iron my clothes or goes to the gym instead of getting my tea on.

Billy the Fish · Jan 7, 2018

Bulldog said:
To hold the door open, step aside and say Ladies first is just making a tit of yourself.

Go through the door in the order you get there, hold it open until the person, male or female, can hold it themselves, then walk away! simples.

Correct answer.

Half Time Pies · Jan 7, 2018

My Sister-in-Law is a feminist and we had a good Christmas day argument over all of this! I think many feminists seek equality when it suits them, when they want to have kids and stay at home to look after them while husband is off working all hours under the Sun then equality isn't a problem, when they and their husband splits up they are happy to take advantage of the fact that the courts prioritise the women's rights over a mans rights, they actively seek a mans-man as a partner but then complain that he isn't sensitive enough. They are moaning about the lack of Women in senior positions but not the fact that its predominantly men that are emptying bins, digging ditches and doing a lot of the low paid high risk jobs out there. Nobody is complaining that Men are the ones that are conscripted if there is a war, the last out in many emergency/ disaster situations and who's lives are generally valued far less. Men are meant to have it easier yet nobody is talking about the fact that 75% of all suicides are Men and its the single biggest killer of males under 45.

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