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[Drinking] The Latte levy



PILTDOWN MAN

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Stupid idea.

Why should I have to carry around a reusable cup on the basis that I may at some point during the day want a hot drink. It's not going to fit in my pockets.

Also a take away coffee becomes more expensive than a have in coffee, but if there is a rush an the cafe has no more china cups as they are behind in washing them up, do I have to still pay the tax for a take away cup although I'm not taking it away.

Rather than apply yet another indirect tax, it would be better for the coffee chains to develop a fully recyclable cup, an trade on their Green policies.

Stop talking sense doesn't fit with controlling socialist green policies. Their answer is always tax the f@@k out of any normal hard working person.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Apologies if I wasn’t clear. I have a glass and plastic re-usable cup which I typically carry with me on work days. If I need a take-away coffee and don’t have this cup with me I go to a place which uses disposable re-cyclable cups.

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Herr Tubthumper

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Stupid idea.

Why should I have to carry around a reusable cup on the basis that I may at some point during the day want a hot drink. It's not going to fit in my pockets..

I don’t think anyone is suggested this. But if you know you will have a coffee on over 170 mornings of the year on the way to work, like me, then it’s no big deal popping a cup in the bag I use for work.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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What. my coffee doesn't cost £4

I said can....and I’m certain I can find you a coffee which is more than a beer in Brighton. Besides, my point was less this and more that coffee is now dearer and a huge business.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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I said can....and I’m certain I can find you a coffee which is more than a beer in Brighton.

Yes but that would come in a jam jar warmed by the inner thighs of big Bertha. Would you like cream with that sir?
 


Springal

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Definitely overdue as the amount of landfill coffee cups must generate is criminal.

No excuse really as very cheap to get a reusable coffee cup. Must admit we get one every year at work but being a man I don’t carry a bag around in so difficult to take out and about so doesn’t get used as much as it should
 






Seagull27

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Everyone suggesting using recyclable cups instead - not really ideal. Recycling still uses a lot more energy than reusing, particularly when it gets shipped halfway across the world to be processed.

If you buy a coffee on a regular basis, it's surely not that much effort to carry a cup round with you in a bag. If you don't, instead of a tax, coffee shops should just 'sell' you a reusable cup with your coffee if you don't have one, which you can take back to reclaim the cost.
 


Saunders

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Deposits on beer “glasses” are common practice here in bars, concert venue and football grounds. At the football many get left for kids to collect and earn a few quid. The majority of glass and plastic bottles have deposits which are redeemable at supermarkets as well.
Yes have witnessed how well the Pfand works at fests sadly we arent trusted with an actual glass at a football match anymore.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Yes have witnessed how well the Pfand works at fests sadly we arent trusted with an actual glass at a football match anymore.

Which festivals have you been to?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Yes but that would come in a jam jar warmed by the inner thighs of big Bertha. Would you like cream with that sir?

Who the **** has cream in their coffee?

As an aside I know a coffee place which has a list of prohibited items including milk and children.
 


Saunders

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If someone had said, 20 years ago, that the future will be bursting at the seams with coffee which can cost the same price as a beer you’d have been carted off.

150 years ago you wouldnt be because then it was extremely expensive. The coffee houses were where the British Stock exchange and Lloyds of London first started (Lloyds still has the old coffee house as part of their modern building) because thats where the richest people met.

Edit then we went the cheapo instant shit and gradually worked our way back to pretty expensive again.
 
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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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it seems like a good idea if tied to a deposit scheme. as it is, looks like a knee jerk popularism which doesnt address real problems, just raise another tax. why arent other cups (such as in office), cartons, bottle tops, sandwich packaging, and so on being highlighted? 25p tax on its own wont do anything about waste directly, people arent going to switch to reusable cups if inconvenient (they arent for people on the go) and they'l just chuck the cup in the bin at work/home/street bin when done as now.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Who the **** has cream in their coffee?

As an aside I know a coffee place which has a list of prohibited items including milk and children.

I was thinking of big Bertha's special cream...........never mind
 


Saunders

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it seems like a good idea if tied to a deposit scheme. as it is, looks like a knee jerk popularism which doesnt address real problems, just raise another tax. why arent other cups (such as in office), cartons, bottle tops, sandwich packaging, and so on being highlighted? 25p tax on its own wont do anything about waste directly, people arent going to switch to reusable cups if inconvenient (they arent for people on the go) and they'l just chuck the cup in the bin at work/home/street bin when done as now.

Its because the environment is a good way of levying taxes and nobody actually gives two s***ts for the environment because if they did the first on the agenda would be to decrease the world population. That would not work with the current system of needing a larger younger generation to pay for the older ones.

Edit that was a reaaaaaly long sentence
 




Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
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I've been using a keep cup (Keep Cup) for a few months now. I'm not convinced it makes a huge difference on its own - I still make use of other single-use plastic containers, though I try not to - but if most people who buy a coffee/tea from these shops did so then it would it make a difference, so I continue to do it. Also, the drinks are cheaper with it.

People can't always take a cup with them, though. I can because I'm going to a known place of work and also have a locker there to store it in. Some kind of use/deposit/re-use scheme might be the best answer for quite a few people.
 


big nuts

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Who the **** has cream in their coffee?

As an aside I know a coffee place which has a list of prohibited items including milk and children.

Cream in coffee is amazing. Had loads of cream left over from Christmas so indulged a lot with that combo recently.
 


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