[Albion] How many goals do we need to score to stay up?

Giraffe · Jan 2, 2018

We have currently scored just 17 goals from 22 games, only West Brom have scored less (15).

So how many do we need? At the current rate (17 from 22 games) we will score 29 goals this season.

The fewest goals scored by a surviving team in the last few seasons has never been lower than 33:

16-17 Burnley 39
15-16 WBA 34
14-15 Sunderland/Aston Villa 31
13-14 Palace 33
12-13 Stoke 34
11-12 Stoke 36
10-11 Wigan 40

BensGrandad · Jan 2, 2018

Scoring the extra 1 goal to get 3 points is a problem because we are conceding too many stupid avoidable goals, like the 2 gainst Bournemouth.

bhawoddy · Jan 2, 2018

if we could stop the instant "defensive" mindset when we score a goal, we may actually get some wins, especially at home.

Score, sit back - invite teams on, concede.... try not to lose the game........

this sequence needs to read

score......try to score again......possibly concede....try to score again

The Sock of Poskett · Jan 2, 2018

Just need to get more clinical. We created enough decent chances to win yesterday, even conceding two poor goals.
If our defence stays as tight as it's generally been, we may only need another 12-14 goals in our remaining games to achieve survival (or let's say four wins and three draws).
However, I'm hoping for rather better than that

studio150 · Jan 2, 2018

We only need to score another 6 goals this season to stay up.

6, 1-0 wins takes us to 41 points and into the safety zone.

Stat Brother · Jan 2, 2018

It's odd to be in January and still firmly believe this seasons top goal scorer still doesn't play for the club.

BensGrandad · Jan 2, 2018

studio150 said:
We only need to score another 6 goals this season to stay up.

6, 1-0 wins takes us to 41 points and into the safety zone.

That is the CH way of thinking not Kevin Keegan when at Newcastle. or Klopp at Liverpool now.

Bold Seagull · Jan 2, 2018

bhawoddy said:
if we could stop the instant "defensive" mindset when we score a goal, we may actually get some wins, especially at home.

Score, sit back - invite teams on, concede.... try not to lose the game........

this sequence needs to read

score......try to score again......possibly concede....try to score again

I don't think this happened yesterday. After both goals for at least 15 - 20mins I thought we looked the more likely to score the next. It was actually after our opponent regrouped, changed formation after the 2nd and took more risks that things actually changed, and even then took hell of a lot of lucky deflections to finally equalise.

Disagree with you that this happened yesterday, and definitely wasn't instant.

Bold Seagull · Jan 2, 2018

I think we need a min 4 more goals.

4 x 1-0 wins
5 x 0-0 draws

Tom Hark Preston Park · Jan 2, 2018

How many goals do we need to score to stay up?

One more than the opposition in home games

Paul Reids Sock · Jan 2, 2018

Bold Seagull said:
I don't think this happened yesterday. After both goals for at least 15 - 20mins I thought we looked the more likely to score the next. It was actually after our opponent regrouped, changed formation after the 2nd and took more risks that things actually changed, and even then took hell of a lot of lucky deflections to finally equalise.

Disagree with you that this happened yesterday, and definitely wasn't instant.

I think after the second yesterday we went straight on the back foot for a couple of minutes but that was more them going for a quick equaliser. After that though we did start to break them down more again. But I think that is usual for most teams and, like you say, not a sign of us sitting back immediately.

we have been spoilt in recent years and to be honest I don't care if we get all 0-0 draws from here and stay up with that

BensGrandad · Jan 2, 2018

3 points against each Stoke West Brom and Swansea and then draws will be sufficient IMHO. They came into it more with their substitutions and for the last few minutes there only looked to be gonna be 1 winner and that was not us although we had chances.

DavePage · Jan 2, 2018

at least as many as our opponents =bagging another 16 points

Gabbafella · Jan 2, 2018

How long's a piece of string?
It's not simply about scoring, it's a case of not conceding stupid goals and making sure we try to take all 3 points when we get our noses in front.
We could score another 20 goals but go and let in another 40.

Bold Seagull · Jan 2, 2018

Giraffe said:
We have currently scored just 17 goals from 22 games, only West Brom have scored less (15).

So how many do we need? At the current rate (17 from 22 games) we will score 29 goals this season.

The fewest goals scored by a surviving team in the last few seasons has never been lower than 33:

16-17 Burnley 39
15-16 WBA 34
14-15 Sunderland/Aston Villa 31
13-14 Palace 33
12-13 Stoke 34
11-12 Stoke 36
10-11 Wigan 40

What is interesting, is that Palace didn't just stay up with 33 goals, they were 11th with 45 points! Wolves survived in 2010 only scoring 32, Stoke finished 11th with 47pts and only 34 goals.

We definitely need more goals, but as with yesterday it is the GA column that is just as important.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 2, 2018

Tom Hark said:
How many goals do we need to score to stay up?

One more than the opposition in home games

Is the correct answer.

Stat Brother · Jan 2, 2018

Bold Seagull said:
What is interesting, is that Palace didn't just stay up with 33 goals, they were 11th with 45 points! Wolves survived in 2010 only scoring 32, Stoke finished 11th with 47pts and only 34 goals.

We definitely need more goals, but as with yesterday it is the GA column that is just as important.

Stoke have consistently scored an unbelievably small amount of goals, over the last 5 seasons.
The writing is definitely on the wall for them, somewhat akin to Sunderland.

It's that level of 'need' to be in the Premier League, at all costs (looking at you WBA, palace, et al) that I hope the Albion don't fall into.

Bold Seagull · Jan 2, 2018

Stat Brother said:
It's that level of 'need' to be in the Premier League, at all costs (looking at you WBA, palace, et al) that I hope the Albion don't fall into.

Indeed. Hence my post about Norwich and Hughton on another thread. Careful what you wish for football fans.

Stat Brother · Jan 2, 2018

Bold Seagull said:
Indeed. Hence my post about Norwich and Hughton on another thread. Careful what you wish for football fans.

Yeah but that was replying to an idiot. :lol:

A1X · Jan 2, 2018

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