[Misc] Pub dissicuon issue

DavidinSouthampton · Dec 31, 2017

I receive Christmas Cards and Greetings from Muslims, and have seen Muslims going through the checkout at Waitrose with Christmas Cards, wrapping paper, devorations, Christmas Cakes etc etc. If i lived in a country which was predominantly of another faith, i would do the same reciprocally, and would not see it as hypocritical.

sydney · Dec 31, 2017

this should help people grasp the difference between your average Muslim and your average rabid jihadist......no...??

Motogull · Dec 31, 2017

I bet their pigs in blankets are rubbish.

knocky1 · Dec 31, 2017

More relevant is do they believe in Father Christmas.
When the Ottoman Caliphate threw the Greeks out of what is now the Turkish Med the church and tomb of Father Christmas became part of Turkey.

cunning fergus · Dec 31, 2017

Dotes

TomandJerry said:
Is it religiously okay for Muslims to celebrate Christmas?

Couple of anecdotes, I have to work in Yorkshire now and then, and one point I stayed in Ilkey, which is a lovely lovely place by the way. Anyroad, I needed a cab from hotel to get to station around lunchtime I the week, and receptionist told me I would have to wait over an hour. I was astounded, then she explained it was Eid so no local mini cabs or taxis were running. I had to wait so she could get one from Leeds, I kid you not. We had a good laugh about diversity in the cab industry and she then said it is helpful at Christmas because they are always running the full service 24 hours.

I also worked with a Muslim born in UK who was fully observant, but westernised in dress. He would always seek to work through the holiday time and save days for Eid, which he was allowed to do.

Add that to the mix.

beorhthelm · Dec 31, 2017

BadFish said:
The British Yuletide thing is Scandinavian but i take your point we should go back to our pagan roots and enjoy religious freedom.

its preserved in Scandinavia but Yuletide was common to all Germanic peoples and parts of the celebration remained in north europe for centuries after Christianity. big feast, 12 days, tree in the house are from Yule, which follow the winter solctice. if i recall the acedemic evidence birth of Christ is all over the place, March or Sepetmeber or November, but never end of December/mid-winter. it would have been a significant thing to note in any account, that his birth was at the new year.

working with a number of Hindus, i observe Diwali each year by scoffing some samosa and pakora brought in. its easy to adopt religious celebrations when theres some food involved.

The Clamp · Dec 31, 2017

Superphil said:
Seagull27 said:

Fictional? Historians are conclusivly in agreement that Jesus existed, sparkly lights and tinsel, amongst other things are often used to celebrate his birth ad subsequent life.

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Historians are CONCLUSIVELY in agreement that jesus existed? That has to be one of the daftest remarks I've ever seen on here. There is an argument for the case. That is all.

maffew · Dec 31, 2017

DavidinSouthampton said:
I receive Christmas Cards and Greetings from Muslims, and have seen Muslims going through the checkout at Waitrose with Christmas Cards, wrapping paper, devorations, Christmas Cakes etc etc. If i lived in a country which was predominantly of another faith, i would do the same reciprocally, and would not see it as hypocritical.

Used to celebrate Dewali with Indian friends in Durban. They even closed the local schools for it was a bit annoying

sydney · Dec 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
Couple of anecdotes, I have to work in Yorkshire now and then, and one point I stayed in Ilkey, which is a lovely lovely place by the way. Anyroad, I needed a cab from hotel to get to station around lunchtime I the week, and receptionist told me I would have to wait over an hour. I was astounded, then she explained it was Eid so no local mini cabs or taxis were running. I had to wait so she could get one from Leeds, I kid you not. We had a good laugh about diversity in the cab industry and she then said it is helpful at Christmas because they are always running the full service 24 hours.

I also worked with a Muslim born in UK who was fully observant, but westernised in dress. He would always seek to work through the holiday time and save days for Eid, which he was allowed to do.

Add that to the mix.

what......so it suits them , unless it doesn't suit them ...?? observant,,?? if i go to Riyhad and steel some condoms and masurbate into a dustbin ......not saying that i would , but if i did i would get my business cut off .....they can come to UK , do shit they can't do at home and by that i mean rape our birds..we are so far up the saudis arses in monetary terms it really isn't funny any more ......sleep well.

Frutos · Dec 31, 2017

I used to work with a Muslim lady of Bangladeshi ancestry (although born here).

She considered Christmas far more a part of British cultural life than a religious festival and celebrated accordingly, with all the usual presents, decorations, tree etc...she even brought home-made mince pies in one year, and bloody nice they were too.

Dick Head · Dec 31, 2017

TomandJerry said:
Is it religiously okay for Muslims to celebrate Christmas?

Celebrate what you want.

carlzeiss · Dec 31, 2017

Amir Khan issues cryptic response after receiving DEATH THREATS over his Christmas tree

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/amir-khan-issues-cryptic-response-14079702

carlzeiss · Dec 31, 2017

Snowmen in danger of beheading also .

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bn1&bn3 Albion · Dec 31, 2017

I had quite a few friends when I was growing up who were Muslim and most of them celebrated it. It's become more of a cultural celebration than a religious celebration.

Harry Wilson's tackle · Dec 31, 2017

Buzzer said:
Of course it is and most do. Isn't this a great example of people from other cultures embracing Western culture?

This. Despite your recent enthusiasm for polls, yet more 'this'. :thumbsup:

Harry Wilson's tackle · Dec 31, 2017

The Clamp said:
Superphil said:

Historians are CONCLUSIVELY in agreement that jesus existed? That has to be one of the daftest remarks I've ever seen on here. There is an argument for the case. That is all.

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I think the bone of contention is the virgin birth and the resurrection. Oh, and being actually one third of god herself.

vegster · Dec 31, 2017

I used to work with a couple of Jehova's Witnesses... Boy they hated it! No cards, pressies or decorations and forced to take 2 days off for Christmas to be confronted with endless Christmas Specials on TV...poor ********.... But, it's a free country and everyone should be allowed to celebrate what they wish regardless.

knocky1 · Dec 31, 2017

sydney said:
what......so it suits them , unless it doesn't suit them ...?? observant,,?? if i go to Riyhad and steel some condoms and masurbate into a dustbin ......not saying that i would , but if i did i would get my business cut off .....they can come to UK , do shit they can't do at home and by that i mean rape our birds..we are so far up the saudis arses in monetary terms it really isn't funny any more ......sleep well.

Jesus Christ. You need educating, inshallah.

The Large One · Dec 31, 2017

knocky1 said:
Jesus Christ. You need educating, inshallah.

Way too late, I fear.

Super Steve Earle · Dec 31, 2017

vegster said:
I used to work with a couple of Jehova's Witnesses... Boy they hated it! No cards, pressies or decorations and forced to take 2 days off for Christmas to be confronted with endless Christmas Specials on TV...poor ********.... But, it's a free country and everyone should be allowed to celebrate what they wish regardless.

I work with one. Lovely guy who doesn't celebrate Christmas pro-actively but is always first to the Christmas cakes, mince pies and festive fare.

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