Maybe you need to increase the scope of your research? I'm not sure if a bunch of other (predominately) white blokes are going to lead you on a path of enlightenment here...
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[News] "Dianne Abbott at the darts" / Antoine Griezzman fancy dress
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Maybe you need to increase the scope of your research? I'm not sure if a bunch of other (predominately) white blokes are going to lead you on a path of enlightenment here...
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It's a dilemma as there is a tradition of actors blacking up for stage parts ie. Othello right up to the 1980s, so over 400 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/jun/10/othello-actors-rsc-lucian-msamati-hugh-quarshie
Then I see nothing wrong with Lewes Bonfire society parading as Zulus. It is a tribute to them.
I can see why black people would be offended at the mocking of Diane Abbot, in such a way, but as already said, it could have been solved by using a mask.
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/jun/10/othello-actors-rsc-lucian-msamati-hugh-quarshie
Then I see nothing wrong with Lewes Bonfire society parading as Zulus. It is a tribute to them.
I can see why black people would be offended at the mocking of Diane Abbot, in such a way, but as already said, it could have been solved by using a mask.
True! Funnily enough, I just went to get a cup of tea and while away was thinking "what am I actually looking for here?" and I concluded that I was looking for first hand evidence from several black people. Clearly I'm on the wrong forum for that!
I think we’re talking at crossed purposes. I have no idea whether this darts fan is mocking Diane Abott for her perceived inability as an MP, mocking her colour, or both. But this is irrelevant to my belief that his actions, for whatever reason and whether intentional or not, will be offensive to some black people. This is enough for me to think the guy is a bell end.
He's not a bell end if he GENUINELY didn't realise he was offending the black community. On the other hand, he is exactly that if he did, and just thought "it's PC gone mad isn't it"
Publius Ovidius
Well-known member
we were having this discussion over a pint of belgian white beer ( Christ it was strong!!!)
there was a lot of hand wringing and being outraged on someone's behalf when Mike Reid was filmed doing his Calypso ...rather unfortunately at a UKIP party, which may be a lot of it, but over the pint we were saying at what point does singing a song in the accent of the original singer become unacceptable. So, Calypso's have always been sung in a West Indian accent...I have done it a few times in a concerts and it is a very clever way of signing a song and not easy at all. One of our group , couldn't understand all the fuss ( and he is from St Kitts) and said " well everyone sings Bob Marley songs with a Jamaican accent don't they?"
We all then, in a drunken haze, tried to sing some marley songs in an English accent, or in one of our group and Dutch accent.
I thought the funniest thing with the Dianne Abbott thing was him holding up a card which said 190!
there was a lot of hand wringing and being outraged on someone's behalf when Mike Reid was filmed doing his Calypso ...rather unfortunately at a UKIP party, which may be a lot of it, but over the pint we were saying at what point does singing a song in the accent of the original singer become unacceptable. So, Calypso's have always been sung in a West Indian accent...I have done it a few times in a concerts and it is a very clever way of signing a song and not easy at all. One of our group , couldn't understand all the fuss ( and he is from St Kitts) and said " well everyone sings Bob Marley songs with a Jamaican accent don't they?"
We all then, in a drunken haze, tried to sing some marley songs in an English accent, or in one of our group and Dutch accent.
I thought the funniest thing with the Dianne Abbott thing was him holding up a card which said 190!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Just a thought, as snowflakes are white, is that offensive? 
I’d suggest he’s a bell-end for exactly this reason.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Another perspective on this.
https://twitter.com/allforunited/status/942651073273221120
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True! Funnily enough, I just went to get a cup of tea and while away was thinking "what am I actually looking for here?" and I concluded that I was looking for first hand evidence from several black people. Clearly I'm on the wrong forum for that!
Didn't Dwayne used to be black?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
daveinprague
New member
theboybilly
Well-known member
I'm sorry but it's patently obvious that the target of this prank is Diane Abbott and not the black community.
So true. Just the same as those that vote for Boris. All with very questionable intelligence. She though takes the prize
She studied history at Cambridge University. You?
Boris Johnson and Call me Dave were at Oxford.
Can't we just BAN Oxbridge undergraduates from standing for parliament?
Bladders
Twats everywhere
Well we know it wasn't maths
Just to confirm, you believe that Diane Abbott deserves rape and death threats?
ROSM
Well-known member
I think the bigger question here is that during the last election there were many number of ministers and shadow ministers who made mistakes with numbers. Michael Fallon, Hammond, Gauke, Corbyn and Abbott to name a few. But the most publicity was given to the only one in that group who is black and who has been an outspoken crituc of the mail and the sun. What a pity that this individual at the darts didnt put on a beard and wonky tooth, or glasses and a drunken letchy manner or looked like a dickless morose accountant
1066familyman
Radio User
- Jan 15, 2008
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Ah, the old - "but my best friend is black" chestnut.
That's swung it for me.... Racist!