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Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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Well I’ve seen it! I’m a 48 yo massive SW fan and am I alone in being a little disappointed,?

I felt Luke’s contribution was weak, they could have done more with Master Yoda and in most are killing off all the reasons that my generation were getting excited about!!

6/10
 


AmexRuislip

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Feb 2, 2014
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Well I’ve seen it! I’m a 48 yo massive SW fan and am I alone in being a little disappointed,?

I felt Luke’s contribution was weak, they could have done more with Master Yoda and in most are killing off all the reasons that my generation were getting excited about!!

6/10

Not being rude, but The Force Awakens and the Last Jedi, their titles give a clue to the future.
I agree with you that I'm of the generation of the previous dynasty, but a new storyline keeps things alive.
When Rey was in Maz Kanatas cellar in the FA, I put the subtitles up to see what the whispered voices were, and seeing who was talking made my mind up that they'd probably feature in the new film.
I also think that LS will feature again in the next film, as he said he'll always be with KR.
As a fan I think it was great :thumbsup:
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
This film sucked giant sized donkey balls proving the theory that Lucas sold it to Disney as revenge for all the heat he had got of fanbois.

There are to many flaws, plot holes etc that I have time to list, someone in a SW group summed it up when she said she cringed all the way through.

A few pointers, Luke throwing the light saber of a cliff and going on to milk some horse/walrus beast to drink its milk. The purpled haired sjw harpy portrayed as a hero and all the male characters portrayed as devious hotheaded imbeciles. Zero character developement, BB8 being the most complex. Full on disneyfication with the Porgs. No point in story unless a food supply for the wookie, at least Ewoks and Jar Jar had roles to play.

Scientific stupidity galore, tracking through hyper space or not being vaccumed in a wrecked dreadnaught. Plot holes like why didn't purple hair ram the dreadnaught when it began blowing up the transporters.


9th best film. 0/10
 








BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
17,013
I thought it was brilliant. It moved the story on for the next generation IMHO.

The think the problem is that in a way the franchise can't win. It either rehashes the old films or does stuff that 'isn't Star Wars'.(a phrase I have heard a few times while discussing the film). This is a tricky line to tread I think and one that this film worked around successfully.

Watching my two boys in the edge of their seats, mouths open with excitement told me everything I need to know about it.


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Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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This film sucked giant sized donkey balls proving the theory that Lucas sold it to Disney as revenge for all the heat he had got of fanbois.

There are to many flaws, plot holes etc that I have time to list, someone in a SW group summed it up when she said she cringed all the way through.

A few pointers, Luke throwing the light saber of a cliff and going on to milk some horse/walrus beast to drink its milk. The purpled haired sjw harpy portrayed as a hero and all the male characters portrayed as devious hotheaded imbeciles. Zero character developement, BB8 being the most complex. Full on disneyfication with the Porgs. No point in story unless a food supply for the wookie, at least Ewoks and Jar Jar had roles to play.

Scientific stupidity galore, tracking through hyper space or not being vaccumed in a wrecked dreadnaught. Plot holes like why didn't purple hair ram the dreadnaught when it began blowing up the transporters.


9th best film. 0/10

With all the hype and pre film gossip I waited with baited breath for a shock an awe moment and the best I got was Luke being able limbo stationary under Rens Sabre. And then it not being him anyway!

Why wasn’t Luke exploited as an extremely powerful Jedi Master that he he least must have been rather than a crusty old miserable fart. They killed him off and he wasn’t even fighting really!

As for the Leah Superman thing, I was squinting-at that moment !

On reflection I’m a tad annoyed at this offering, at least when I walked out of TFA it was all I talked about for days, saw it again and have watched the DVD twice, this one just didn’t go it for me!

Like Rouge One which I really enjoyed btw my hope is they do justice to the Han Sol story!
 


jabba

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Jul 15, 2009
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York
I enjoyed it. A nice goodbye to Carrie Fisher (despite the flying through space scene, awful). Clearing the decks of the old and developing the new characters that will take the franchise (because it's more than a film series now) forward. You notice the kid at the end using the force to grab his broom? Says rebels and potential heroes all around.

A few too many 'messages' though. How women are strong and heroic (including new main character to cover no Asians in leads). A silly sub-plot to take them on a jaunt to Space Vegas while the fate of the galaxy was in the balance. Probably just to liberate the downtrodden racing animals and to vilify arms dealers.

So, plot problems and Disneyfication for toy sales apart, I'm looking forward to the next episode. The arc of good vs evil not yet played out. Is Ray going dark and Ren will need to save her?
 






Giraffe

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Watched it earlier. I enjoyed it but would rate it fairly low compared to some of the others.

Was mostly disappointed by the way Luke was portrayed. He has hero status from previous films and I feel he deserved a much better role in this film and a better farewell.

I like the new characters and also liked the broom moment at the end.

The less said about the strange milking of the odd creature early doors the better. Weird and unnecessary.
 


jabba

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Jul 15, 2009
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What was the “nice goodbye “ she was alive at the end? Or did I miss something?

I just thought the scene with her and Luke in the cavern was touching, and likely to be her last appearance. There was a dedication at end credits "to our princess" as well.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Watched it earlier. I enjoyed it but would rate it fairly low compared to some of the others.

Was mostly disappointed by the way Luke was portrayed. He has hero status from previous films and I feel he deserved a much better role in this film and a better farewell.

I like the new characters and also liked the broom moment at the end.

The less said about the strange milking of the odd creature early doors the better. Weird and unnecessary.

It was a bit of a shame for Luke but i felt like it was exploring his flaws in the first three films. He always had a petulance about him and the sulky teenager motif is strong in the Skywalkers (from Anakin to Luke to Kylo Ben). His final years were the final throwing the toys out of the pram as he wrestled with his faith in the force and the Jedi. Personally I think it would have been a bit obvious to make him a super Jedi who comes and saves the day with wild wizzardry. This way he has opened the door for the new generations.

Leia's spaceflight didn't bother me that much, it seems logical that if one can move objects with the force then it is perfectly possible to pulls ones self to a large object in zero gravity. I don't really get why people are so upset about this. Nor the milking bit either, this showed that Luke had become one with his surroundings.
 






beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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odd views on Luke, i thought his part was strong. he's Yoda of Empire (there's alot of Empire going on) who you'll recall was very reluctant to train Luke, they further developed the idea that the using the force is a burden as much as a power. some plot flaws yes, but then there have always been gapping plot problems in Star Wars films. they could have done without the trip to casino and done more (or less) with the space chase. they didnt jump of of LS on a whim, so why so far from the planet and why didnt they know that was the plan?
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,553
On the Border
Saw it this afternoon, and didn't enjoy it at.

Found myself looking at my watch often trying to work out how long left which is a sure sign of not enjoying the film.

In terms of Syfi films I would say a very poor second to the rebooted Star Trek franchise on long running sagas.
 


StonehamPark

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Oct 30, 2010
9,762
BC, Canada
Very average.
Disappointed with Luke's ending. I wanted him to go out swinging and remembered as a martyr.

Leia's ending should have been out in space, not the weird Superman scene we saw.

Pretty horrible use of forced comedy too with the little furby/gremlin things.

Intrigued by the kid swinging the broom at the end though, who was he, where is he. Guessing he would be the main part of the story for the next trilogy.

My personal preference:
Empire
Hope
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
TFA
TLJ
The unspoken three
 




sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
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It was a bit of a shame for Luke but i felt like it was exploring his flaws in the first three films. He always had a petulance about him and the sulky teenager motif is strong in the Skywalkers (from Anakin to Luke to Kylo Ben). His final years were the final throwing the toys out of the pram as he wrestled with his faith in the force and the Jedi. Personally I think it would have been a bit obvious to make him a super Jedi who comes and saves the day with wild wizzardry. This way he has opened the door for the new generations.

Leia's spaceflight didn't bother me that much, it seems logical that if one can move objects with the force then it is perfectly possible to pulls ones self to a large object in zero gravity. I don't really get why people are so upset about this. Nor the milking bit either, this showed that Luke had become one with his surroundings.

That’s how I felt, although her Superman moment was hilarious.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
17,013
Very average.
Disappointed with Luke's ending. I wanted him to go out swinging and remembered as a martyr.

Leia's ending should have been out in space, not the weird Superman scene we saw.

Pretty horrible use of forced comedy too with the little furby/gremlin things.

Intrigued by the kid swinging the broom at the end though, who was he, where is he. Guessing he would be the main part of the story for the next trilogy.

My personal preference:
Empire
Hope
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
TFA
TLJ
The unspoken three

Love a list

Empire Strikes Back
The Last Jedi
A New Hope
The Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace

(yes I thought one of the first three was good)
 



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