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    Stokes alone wouldn't make that much of a difference to the overall performance. We would just loose by an innings and slightly less.
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      Ali’s batting and bowling averages over the last year or so (before this series) were as good as Stokes.
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      Ali’s batting and bowling averages over the last year or so (before this series) were as good as Stokes.
      But were Woakes or Overton which is where we needed him for his pace bowling and I would assume his batting. average would have been better also,.
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      Ali’s batting and bowling averages over the last year or so (before this series) were as good as Stokes.
      What's done is done, but I honestly believe a 26 year old Stokes in his absolute physical prime might have given the Aussies a torrid time on these pacy wickets. He is fast, aggressive and gets reverse swing, and his fielding is electric.
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      If we had a few extra runs on the board and bowled a bit better in the first innings the wicket now is showing we might have given Australia a hard time in the last innings.
      If we get away with this one and up our game could still rescue the series. Oh dear spoke to soon Malan gone.
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      They think it's all over......... oh wrong sport.
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      All over.
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      Can we just concede Melbourne and Sydney?

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      Usual post mortem on TMS, no solutions other than to miracle up some fast bowlers who don't exist. By the sound of Bayliss this was a hopeless task before we got on the plane.
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      Innings defeat after posting 400, I wonder how many times that's happened?
      The Guardian has answered this:

      Teams to score 400 in first innings and lose by innings

      Inns and 75 - England, Chennai 2016
      inns and 41 - England, Perth, 2017
      Inns and 39 - England, Oval, 1930
      Inns and 36 - England, Mumbai, 2016
      Inns and 18 - Pakistan, MCG, 2016
      Inns and 14 - Sri Lanka, Cardiff, 2011


      That's incredible.In 139 years of test matches, it had happened just three times and England have now done it three times in just over a year
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