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    Looks like the weather might have the final say, not good for a couple of days.
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      No rain yet....just blowing a gale ....!!
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      England have 5 bowlers who've bit hit for over 100 in this innings. I can't remember that happening before, truly awful.

      Aussies having a thrash now as the declaration can't be far away.
      "Intercluderent aut mori"
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      England 4/1 already. FFS.
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      I've thought for some time that maybe it's time for Anderson, Broad, Cook to be put out to pasture. Time for a clean sweep, we've been creaking for a few years now and you have to move on at some point. I have ZERO evidence to support this theory but I always get the feeling that Broad and Anderson are a bit poisonous to team morale, would happily see the back of their personalities if not their skills.
      We were always going to lose this series heavily.
      You probably have a point re Jimmy and broad though. They seem to have too much power.
      But once we get back to England their shortcomings will be forgotten.
      Even at his age, Anderson is by far the best bet in English conditions. And broad has years in him.
      As for cook, I’m not sure he has the hunger in him anymore. So many miles on the clock. It will be a sad day when he retires as he has such integrity as a person.
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      Sadly, I woke up to the predicable news..I think it's time for 5Live to stop trailing themselves as the "Ashes station" and programmes like" Ashes Breakfast "....

      Getting sick of that Aussie girl with that nasal " The Ashes.... The fiercest rivalry in sport... " When it should be " The Shambles... The greatest embarrassment in sport "
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      The commentators were saying how the cracks in the pitch will help England as we have so many left handers in the team and the ball will play better for them as being on their leg side It is a a good job that it has helped them so far. .
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      Quote Originally Posted by Garry Nelson's teacher View Post
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      Hard to locate any optimism. We've made Mitch Marsh look like Bradman. The 3 'undropables' (Jimmy, Broad and Cook) suddenly look 'unselectables'. Bit unfair on Jimmy A but on a flat wicket ...............As for Swann, I've never quite forgiven him for abandoning ship in the Ashes last series (and for being in love with himself).
      I totally agree. I thought he was a great bowler up until that time when he took a bit of tap from the Aussies and spat his dummy and walked out. Now it seems he was a bit of a bully and a bit up himself. Suddenly, when the tables were turned it wasn't " Fun " anymore, but he's back to his cocky self though in the commentary box though now.
      I had run 17 miles from Grayshades before the school leopard caught me.....

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      A bit of perspective. Here's India's last few test series results in Australia:

      2014/15 Aus 2-0 (4)
      2011/12 Aus 4-0 (4)

      And here's Australia in India:

      2016/17 India 2-1 (4)
      2012/13 India 4-0 (4)
      2010/11 India 2-0 (2)

      Pretty much every other test nation takes a beating Down Under, but Australia themselves struggle overseas in English and Indian conditions.

      History tells you that England have a chance either when abroad when they have world class spinners or top bowlers in their pomp and you can take 20 wickets in a match. Presently we have neither; the sad fact is that 26 year-old Stokes could well have topped the charts in both runs and wickets and made a real difference.

      You have to question what is most damaging to English cricket: having Stokes play for them now whilst on a charge, or taking a 5-0 pasting without him.
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      A bit of perspective. Here's India's last few test series results in Australia:

      2014/15 Aus 2-0 (4)
      2011/12 Aus 4-0 (4)

      And here's Australia in India:

      2016/17 India 2-1 (4)
      2012/13 India 4-0 (4)
      2010/11 India 2-0 (2)

      Pretty much every other test nation takes a beating Down Under, but Australia themselves struggle overseas in English and Indian conditions.

      History tells you that England have a chance either when abroad when they have world class spinners or top bowlers in their pomp and you can take 20 wickets in a match. Presently we have neither; the sad fact is that 26 year-old Stokes could well have topped the charts in both runs and wickets and made a real difference.

      You have to question what is most damaging to English cricket: having Stokes play for them now whilst on a charge, or taking a 5-0 pasting without him.
      Its a tough call. innocent until proved guilty does not work well when someone is in the public eye. if he had been picked for this series the aussies would have been giving him hell on the pitch and the press off it. He would have been under so much pressure it might have destroyed him as a player. If we could go back in time and the incident had not happened he might well have made a difference, but, not enough to prevent our current position.
      I had run 17 miles from Grayshades before the school leopard caught me.....

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