[Football] A new Selhurst

Whatever happened to the 50,000 stadium in Bromley? Did they suddenly wake up to the fact that they couldn't sell out 25,000 in the Championship?

So as I understand it they are building one new stand and claiming that's a new stadium? Is that right?

Giraffe said:

Whatever happened to the 50,000 stadium in Bromley? Did they suddenly wake up to the fact that they only averaged around 15,000 in the Championship before the 10,000 Premier League plastics turned up?

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Fixed for you.

Dougie said:

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Beautiful lines .

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My favourite bit about this is how clean and washed the surrounding area looks. Is part of the deal that they are going to whitewash all surrounding buildings and clear out all of the shit surrounding the stadium?

Bozza said:

Fixed for you.

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Lovely. I was being far too generous.

Please God let it be built. It looks absolute shite and they will be a laughing stock (again).

By the way, have they asked the supermarket's permission if they can build over their land? What we will end up seeing is some ludicrous oversized version of our West Stand, cobbled onto that ridiculous barn-like stand at the Holmesdale Road end of the ground, and the rest of the place will barely be any different - including that 10 seater stand behind the supermarket.

TypicalPalace said:

Breaking News: Brighton fans in "Palaces new stadium plans look sh1t" shocker

34k keep up lads.

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Here's another shock: if that dogs breakfast ever gets built, I'll bet even the thickest Nigel won't have the front to call our beautiful stadium "the wonky warehouse" anymore.

Sussex Nomad said:

I never thought it possible to polish a turd... but it is still...

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You can't polish a turd. But you can roll it in glitter.

Can you imagine the beauty of them unveiling that ready for a season in the championship and only half filling it. Could be the end of them (again). I hope the builders get paid upfront.

Surely the Disney Prince has not gone large on a model and presentation without agreeing a deal with Sainsbury’s or having a glimpse of planning permission........oh he has

https://insidecroydon.com/2017/12/04/100m-new-scheme-for-selhurst-but-no-ones-told-sainsburys/amp/

Pipe dream

Seasider78 said:

Surely the Disney Prince has not gone large on a model and presentation without agreeing a deal with Sainsbury’s or having a glimpse of planning permission........oh he has

https://insidecroydon.com/2017/12/04/100m-new-scheme-for-selhurst-but-no-ones-told-sainsburys/amp/

Pipe dream

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Oh. My. God. When I posted that question just 13 minutes ago, I was JOKING.

What a clown tin pot outfit they are.

Seasider78 said:

Surely the Disney Prince has not gone large on a model and presentation without agreeing a deal with Sainsbury’s or having a glimpse of planning permission........oh he has

https://insidecroydon.com/2017/12/04/100m-new-scheme-for-selhurst-but-no-ones-told-sainsburys/amp/

Pipe dream

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"The club has been considering up-grading Selhurst Park for at least five years. Yet sources at Croydon Town Hall say that the blueprints for the scheme were only presented to the council’s planning department within the past fortnight for pre-application discussions, and there is a suggestion that the club is yet to open talks with Sainsbury’s, who operate a superstore on the football ground site."

Incredible. Total amateurs.

It gets better:

Unmentioned at today’s launch and in the glossy presentation which was slavishly published at the weekend by a Guildford-based, small-circulation newspaper, is that the scheme would also require the demolition of seven houses, on Wooderson Close, and that this would need a Compulsory Purchase Order through the council.

And!

There’s also some scepticism about the £100million price tag attached to the scheme and its timetable. Intended to increase the ground capacity by a mere 8,000 seats – from 26,000 to 34,000 – the project appears mainly to be the redevelopment of the old, wooden stand, with the construction of a five-storey building offering a big increase in corporate hospitality boxes. Palace have put a value of £41million on this aspect of the scheme. It’s unclear where the other £60million included in their cost estimates is to be spent.

Crystal Palace, the gift that just keeps giving.

Seasider78 said:

Surely the Disney Prince has not gone large on a model and presentation without agreeing a deal with Sainsbury’s or having a glimpse of planning permission........oh he has

https://insidecroydon.com/2017/12/04/100m-new-scheme-for-selhurst-but-no-ones-told-sainsburys/amp/

Pipe dream

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Here's the full article to save the click through:

Questions have been raised about plans, unveiled today, for a redeveloped Selhurst Park stadium for Crystal Palace Football Club.

The club has been considering up-grading Selhurst Park for at least five years. Yet sources at Croydon Town Hall say that the blueprints for the scheme were only presented to the council’s planning department within the past fortnight for pre-application discussions, and there is a suggestion that the club is yet to open talks with Sainsbury’s, who operate a superstore on the football ground site.
Unmentioned at today’s launch and in the glossy presentation which was slavishly published at the weekend by a Guildford-based, small-circulation newspaper, is that the scheme would also require the demolition of seven houses, on Wooderson Close, and that this would need a Compulsory Purchase Order through the council.

The scheme is large enough that it would also have to be referred to the regional planners working under the Mayor of London at City Hall.

“They know there’s local elections coming up, and Steve O’Connell, the Tory councillor, is close to the club boardroom,” a Katharine Street source said today.

“They must think that they can railroad this through planning in a hurry now, because the council wouldn’t dare be seen to undermine a scheme which benefits the local football club. But things are never that simple.”

There’s also some scepticism about the £100million price tag attached to the scheme and its timetable. Intended to increase the ground capacity by a mere 8,000 seats – from 26,000 to 34,000 – the project appears mainly to be the redevelopment of the old, wooden stand, with the construction of a five-storey building offering a big increase in corporate hospitality boxes. Palace have put a value of £41million on this aspect of the scheme. It’s unclear where the other £60million included in their cost estimates is to be spent.
It is just over a year since Palace got two new co-owners, Joshua Harris and David Blitzer, with promised investment and a background in running sports franchises in the United States. In America, corporate hospitality can be big business, although the experience of football clubs in England outside the “Big 6” is that flogging over-priced prawn sandwiches and warm lager for a 500 quid a time is not always a guarantee for success. Anyone seen Coventry lately?

Work could start in the next 12 months, Palace chairman and co-owner Steve Parish predicted today. Yet Palace are claiming that the stand will take three years to build. Tottenham’s £800million new stadium is being built in half that time.

Parish’s scheme would also give the stadium a bigger pitch, to bring Selhurst Park in line with Uefa regulations so it can host European tournament football, and a new museum.

The club have played at Selhurst Park since 1924.

“We need a stadium that reflects who we are, how far we have come and where we want to go,” Parish said.

“We have worked long and hard and looked at several options over the years, including returning to the original site of Crystal Palace, which wasn’t viable. While we can’t go back to it, we can build a new one.”

The club’s development website states, “The centrepiece of the redevelopment is a stunning new five-storey stand featuring an all-glass front – a homage to the club’s earliest days when it stood in the shadows of the original Crystal Palace, erected on Sydenham Hill. A central vaulted arch, with the famous Eagle crest, is a reminder of the iconic 1851 Exhibition Hall, and eagle wings flank the 41-metre structure.

“The project is being designed by leading stadium architects KSS, the firm behind the redevelopment of iconic sporting venues, including Anfield, Twickenham and Wimbledon. The roof of the new stand will be designed to funnel sound down to the pitch and the Arthur Wait Stand opposite.

“Plans will be submitted to Croydon Council in January and, subject to planning permission being granted, work would begin in the next 12 months. The project is likely to take up to three years to complete. The existing Main Stand will remain in full operational use throughout the build process, minimising the impact on the stadium capacity in the coming seasons.”

Giraffe said:

It gets better:

Unmentioned at today’s launch and in the glossy presentation which was slavishly published at the weekend by a Guildford-based, small-circulation newspaper, is that the scheme would also require the demolition of seven houses, on Wooderson Close, and that this would need a Compulsory Purchase Order through the council.

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Nice way for the house owners to find out !!

I did wonder if the model was the actual stadium.
I assumed that was just too shite and unfunny even for me.

Turns out yes the thought was too shite, unfunny but actual true.

Saw Disney Prince on SSN last night talking about the "plans", but the bit that leapt out was his reasoning for expanding the pitch to make it comply with FIFA. Apparently he seriously believes that if England ever hosts the World Cup again then a 34,000-seater stadium would be a contender to be a venue. Yes, this is despite London already having Wembley, Arsenal, the new Spurs, West Ham and a potential new Chelsea, and the FA famous for milking every last penny out of football fans in this country, who let's be honest, would sell-out a 60,000-seater stadium to watch Peru v Iran at £50 a pop.

Deluded.

What will the impact be on the first team finances I wonder!?

Doc Lynam said:

What will the impact be on the first team finances I wonder!?

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A Palace fan will be along in a minute to explain how their American part-owners, who are overseeing an unprecedented period of success at Selhurst Park, have ring-fenced the funds for the ground meaning whoever their manager is by the time the next transfer window comes round will be able to invest in more top-notch talent like Emmanuel Adebayor.

The club’s development website states, “The centrepiece of the redevelopment is a stunning new five-storey stand featuring an all-glass front – a homage to the club’s earliest days when it stood in the shadows of the original Crystal Palace, erected on Sydenham Hill. A central vaulted arch, with the famous Eagle crest, is a reminder of the iconic 1851 Exhibition Hall, and eagle wings flank the 41-metre structure.

“The project is being designed by leading stadium architects KSS, the firm behind the redevelopment of iconic sporting venues, including Anfield, Twickenham and Wimbledon. The roof of the new stand will be designed to funnel sound down to the pitch and the Arthur Wait Stand opposite.

Funny didn't mention the award winning Amex Stadium they also designed!