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[Cricket] Second Ashes Test Australia vs England Adelaide 2nd-6th December 2017



Weststander

Weststander

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crodonilson said:
We’re getting absolutely pummelled in Australia AGAIN, this team are a disgrace. Send them home NOW.

My tenner on 5-0 at 11/1 at the start of the series looks very good value.
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Weather permitting, you should be good for the winnings.

Other than one tour, for 30 years England are always an embarrassment in Oz.

All the hype was hot air, quickly dispelled.
 






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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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I have just listened to the podcast of Michael Vaughan talking to Jonathan Agnew and it was interesting to hear an Ex England captain and obvious authority on cricket saying that the outcome of The Ashes was set by our poor bowling after lunch on the 3rd day at The Gabba, when we let Australia off the hook and gave lthem the oppotunity to win, which they took. He also said that the result of this test and possibly The Ashes was dependent on how many runs Cook could score especially as from no 7 our batting is weak and we wouldnt expect them to score the same amount of runs as the Australia tail does. His final point was that we can not replace Stokes the allrounder but should have replaced Stokes the bowler with better as we must bowl out Australia twice each test to win it. He doubted that we could do that as our pace bowler replacement arent fast enough to bowl bouncers, hence we are bowling much too short. He also said that the wicket will not help Moeen Ali as much as it does Nathan Tyson so the bowling outlook is not very good.
 


Mackenzie

Mackenzie

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Nov 7, 2003
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BensGrandad said:
I have just listened to the podcast of Michael Vaughan talking to Jonathan Agnew and it was interesting to hear an Ex England captain and obvious authority on cricket saying that the outcome of The Ashes was set by our poor bowling after lunch on the 3rd day at The Gabba, when we let Australia off the hook and gave lthem the oppotunity to win, which they took. He also said that the result of this test and possibly The Ashes was dependent on how many runs Cook could score especially as from no 7 our batting is weak and we wouldnt expect them to score the same amount of runs as the Australia tail does. His final point was that we can not replace Stokes the allrounder but should have replaced Stokes the bowler with better as we must bowl out Australia twice each test to win it. He doubted that we could do that as our pace bowler replacement arent fast enough to bowl bouncers, hence we are bowling much too short. He also said that the wicket will not help Moeen Ali as much as it does Nathan Tyson so the bowling outlook is not very good.
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All sound analysis. Hopefully we'll scrape a draw in this one (please rain!) and get Mark Wood back in the team asap.
 


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dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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Were fooked. It seems a recurring theme in recent Ashes series that in home conditions we can win maybe win 3-2/ 2-1, but in Australian conditions its about avoiding a 5-0 whitewash. Stokes is badly missed, but the Aussie quick's bowl 5ph faster than any of the English bowlers, and apart from the ever green Anderson/Broad combination, the rest of the bowlers look like they would not look out of place in a local pub team.
 




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Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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Haywards Heath
We have to remember that not many teams in world cricket win away from home. Usually the no.1 team can do it, but that's about it.

Our batsmen can't cope with the extra pace because they're not used to it. The same thing will happen in the summer when India tour England, they've got some amazing players but they struggle against the swinging ball.

We simply don't have the team to win in these conditions.
 


Superphil

Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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Not a great start to the day, wicket gone in the first over, Root and Cook now need to do something extraordinary.
 


Superphil

Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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In a pile of football shirts
Root out for 9, a shambles comes to mind.
 














OzMike

OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
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Won't be going to pub this week.
Off sick today and not being cheered up at all by this inept performance.
Looks like they have forgotten how to play the game.
 


Hugo Rune

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I think this collapse has surrendered the Ashes. Australia looking good for their fabled 5-0. At least it won’t be 5-1 with the painful feelings that would invoke!


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vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Woken up to find the expected situation. The BBC website struggling to come up with different ways to say " England Collapse "... Seems a combination of fairy wafts, fishing and extreme bad luck has done for us again.
 


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Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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vegster said:
Woken up to find the expected situation. The BBC website struggling to come up with different ways to say " England Collapse "... Seems a combination of fairy wafts, fishing and extreme bad luck has done for us again.
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Not sure luck has much to do with it, just cant bat properly
 








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