[Politics] Govern or Go

AmexRuislip · Nov 12, 2017

btnbelle said:
Which is male dominated. I know there are some men who suffer but majority are women who suffer at the hands of power. Men have mothers and daughters, grand daughters, surely the time has come to just call out this power over other humans for what it is.

It's all linked, whether in politics, the police and even HM forces.
The male dominated (masonic sometimes) class system is endemic IMO

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

Why should it matter whether an MP be a male or female there is too much of trying to be correct. Have the best qualified person do the job irrespective of their gender.

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
He won't. Boris will never be PM precisely because he doesn't have the support of many MPs. He's widely loathed by the Tory MPs. He couldn't even muster enough supporters to stand last time and that was before he'd cocked up the foreign secretary gig.

All the time the Tories have a majority they will thankfully vote for him to keep Corbyn further away and hope that he (Corbyn) just grows old with his fantasy world and retires.

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
Why should it matter whether an MP be a male or female there is too much of trying to be correct. Have the best qualified person do the job irrespective of their gender.

It should not matter, I agree. But the power means it does matter. Boris is using his power and Teresa yields to it.

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
He won't. Boris will never be PM precisely because he doesn't have the support of many MPs. He's widely loathed by the Tory MPs. He couldn't even muster enough supporters to stand last time and that was before he'd cocked up the foreign secretary gig.

Agree.

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
All the time the Tories have a majority they will thankfully vote for him to keep Corbyn further away and hope that he (Corbyn) just grows old with his fantasy world and retires.

Both parties are bringing our country down. Power at the top.....

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

btnbelle said:
Both parties are bringing our country down. Power at the top.....

TM will do us well with her Brexit deal. You come across as a burn your bra supporter with a huge chip on your shoulder

Gwylan · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
All the time the Tories have a majority they will thankfully vote for him to keep Corbyn further away and hope that he (Corbyn) just grows old with his fantasy world and retires.

They won't though. If that were true how come he didn't stand last time?

I posted on here before about a dinner I went to when Emily Maitlis was the guest speaker and one of the points she made was how much Johnson was disliked by his fellow MPs.

If there were a secret ballot of votes for leader, I can honestly imagine some Tories voting for Corbyn over Bojo.

AmexRuislip · Nov 12, 2017

https://www.gov.uk/government/people/boris-johnson

Intelligence policy :wrong:

abc · Nov 12, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
Boris needs to go, Gove needs to go, hapless May needs to go.

I suppose for balance, Corbyn needs to go.

Not sure who that leaves standing.

Wouldn't that be brilliant? Get rid of the old guard in ALL parties and replace them with younger MPs who have new ideas and still believe that they can contribute to the good of the country rather than their own self interest or than follow a political dogma from the dark ages.

Won't happen but one can dream

GT49er · Nov 12, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
Boris needs to go, Gove needs to go, hapless May needs to go.

I suppose for balance, Corbyn needs to go.

Not sure who that leaves standing.

Just hand the whole thing over to Juncker and Merkel then; they could send in an EU task force to run the country - at least that would keep the remainers happy!

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
They won't though. If that were true how come he didn't stand last time?

I posted on here before about a dinner I went to when Emily Maitlis was the guest speaker and one of the points she made was how much Johnson was disliked by his fellow MPs.

If there were a secret ballot of votes for leader, I can honestly imagine some Tories voting for Corbyn over Bojo.

You obviously know better than me I can only see it as a complete outsider,

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
TM will do us well with her Brexit deal. You come across as a burn your bra supporter with a huge chip on your shoulder

I love my bra, I love being a woman. I hate people using power over doing the right thing. I want Brexit, I don't want a Foreign Secretary who puts a British nationals life in danger, male or female.

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

btnbelle said:
I love my bra, I love being a woman. I hate people using power over doing the right thing. I want Brexit, I don't want a Foreign Secretary who puts a British nationals life in danger, male or female.

I havent really followed the story but I was under the impression that what he has said about the womans motives have been vindicated by some and it isnt as clear cut as many would have us believe, but I wont get involved in an argument about this particular issue.

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
I havent really followed the story but I was under the impression that what he has said about the womans motives have been vindicated by some and it isnt as clear cut as many would have us believe, but I wont get involved in an argument about this particular issue.

My post is not about men/women really. Its about power. In society power decides the decision a person makes over the decision they want to take. Teresa May needs to show she is the strong and stable leader she promised. Sack Boris and take his power away.

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

btnbelle said:
My post is not about men/women really. Its about power. In society power decides the decision a person makes over the decision they want to take. Teresa May needs to show she is the strong and stable leader she promised. Sack Boris and take his power away.[/QUOTE

Why should she if she considers that generally he is doing a good job with a few gaffes, just to please the media. She is showing judgement to go with the power that she has as PM.

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
btnbelle said:

My post is not about men/women really. Its about power. In society power decides the decision a person makes over the decision they want to take. Teresa May needs to show she is the strong and stable leader she promised. Sack Boris and take his power away.[/QUOTE

Why should she if she considers that generally he is doing a good job with a few gaffes, just to please the media. She is showing judgement to go with the power that she has as PM.

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He is not doing a good job. That is the point, she fears he has power to take her down.

BensGrandad · Nov 12, 2017

That is your opinion perhaps she thinks differently, I dont know do you?

wellquickwoody · Nov 12, 2017

AmexRuislip said:
Don't you mean the old boys network!

btnbelle said:
Which is male dominated.

Really?................. :shrug:

btnbelle · Nov 12, 2017

BensGrandad said:
That is your opinion perhaps she thinks differently, I dont know do you?

Are you suggesting Teresa May thinks he is doing a good job? That she wants a Foreign Secretary who puts a British national in more peril? After all she accepts the the resignation of her Defence and Foriegn Aid Secretary's in the same week. One of which she summons back from Africa to resign before being sacked.

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