alfredmizen
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It’s “fault” by the way , and you had the front to comment on my intelligence
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[Football] Banter - just an excuse for otherwise socially unacceptable behaviour
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Wrong-Direction
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[emoji23] haha at least plumbers aren't brainwashed into becoming mindless killing machines full of hate.
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In my experience, banter comes in two types.
Banter (1) A joke, intended to be funny to all including the victim. A bit of fun among mates where all understand that no insult. damage or humiliation is intended. My limited experience of the ex military guys I know would put their banter in this group.This banter can be bloody funny and inclusive as everyone in the group gets it and can give it, and would normally avoid comments that they know would be deeply offensive to someone.
Banter (2) The term used by a bully to pretend he/she is a nice guy just having a laugh, man up mate, don't take it personally, it's just a joke.. An offensive comment intended to insult, cause damage or humiliate. A term intended to exclude the victim from a group by highlighting their difference instead of including them thus making the bully feel superior. A comment intentionally pointing to things that the bully knows will be deeply offensive to the intended victim.
Banter (1) A joke, intended to be funny to all including the victim. A bit of fun among mates where all understand that no insult. damage or humiliation is intended. My limited experience of the ex military guys I know would put their banter in this group.This banter can be bloody funny and inclusive as everyone in the group gets it and can give it, and would normally avoid comments that they know would be deeply offensive to someone.
Banter (2) The term used by a bully to pretend he/she is a nice guy just having a laugh, man up mate, don't take it personally, it's just a joke.. An offensive comment intended to insult, cause damage or humiliate. A term intended to exclude the victim from a group by highlighting their difference instead of including them thus making the bully feel superior. A comment intentionally pointing to things that the bully knows will be deeply offensive to the intended victim.
alfredmizen
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You’d have to have a brain for them to wash
Hastings gull
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Absolutely. Good post and definitions that most folk would surely subscribe to. Sadly, however, a small minority is determined to see well-intentioned Banter 1 as Banter 2.
spring hall convert
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He was sharing the story because he lost a good member of staff. I still fail to see what good an arbitrary judgement of her sensitivity is to anyone, she's still left.
By saying what you said you evidenced that you had totally missed the point of that story being shared. And also 'Took it the wrong way' is blame. 'Very sensitive' is blame. It is you who is looking to blame.
The point is that blame is irrelevant. Look at the end result - was it the desired outcome for McT? Could it very easily have been different?
Your postings here drip with privilege. You are the arbiter of how sensitive someone can be and even in a workplace it is their problem if they don't like jokes being made at their expense because you deem them to be innocuous.
I'm not even anti-banter. There's a place for it in some environments, I just though this story was a good illustration of why you need to considerate choosing those environments.
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spring hall convert
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I just draw your attention to 'all understand there is no insult,' in Banter 1. Not 'Hastings Gull deems there is no insult.'
Fully agree. The worlds gone mad. What else did he say?
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