Baldseagull
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If Palace score a goal, will you believe then?
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Agnostic vs Atheist
- Thread starter maffew
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If Palace score a goal, will you believe then?
lawros left foot
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This
Baldseagull
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And if Jesus died for our sins, we really ought to sin, or he died for nothing.
Baldseagull
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Not sure I believe it is currently expanding, I am agnostic about that.
Baldseagull
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I think it was a Bill Hicks joke where a believer said to him that God put those fossils there to test our faith, to which he replied "Yeah? And maybe he put you here to test my patience."
Baldseagull
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Testing peoples faith, as in Job
GreersElbow
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This guy gets it
You’ll never find an Agnostic in a fox hole
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As an atheist I'm OK with people believing in things there's no evidence for (expect Holocaust deniers, as they should be put locked away for everyone's good), as long as they're not using that belief to make decisions that affect others i.e in politics, teaching or violent ideology. Any decent schools should teach religion as a choice and a general view of all beliefs and non-beliefs.
To answer the OP, agnostics still have that 1% fear in them, just in case it goes tits up when they die. Like believing in ghosts - they don't believe in them but ask them to partake in a seance with a ouija board?
To answer the OP, agnostics still have that 1% fear in them, just in case it goes tits up when they die. Like believing in ghosts - they don't believe in them but ask them to partake in a seance with a ouija board?
He said some good stuff
“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.”
“The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.”
Right, sure, but surely a god, by any terms, is a supernatural entity that magically/mystically/spiritually interferes (for good or ill) in the events of one particular species on this one particular planet for a tiny, almost infinitesimal moment in time of it's existence, right?
If that's not how you'd describe your understanding of God, I'd argue that's not the Abrahamic deities you're talking about, nor any other I can think of.
Considering the current modern human evolutionary changes, I don't think the "big bang" theory is really that hard to believe.
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symyjym
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studio150
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No it will just be like snow in June it doesn't happen that often but just occasionally it does.
daveinprague
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This God seems to spend a lot of time on people on a tiny planet which is located within a fairly insignificant galaxy in the universe. Hope he gets time for the rest of the universe.
Machiavelli
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Someone's probably done this already: but that's an argument for the Big Bang causing the universe, and not the universe creating itself.
- Jan 3, 2012
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Sorry not to be argumentative, but yes, I would go along with that. But it is a fairly loose definition - albeit one I am happy with. I was thinking people might be expecting something a bit more specific........ but it would be the specific that would be difficult.
It's the "How can your God allow...." questions that exercise me, not because I want to steer clear of talking about them, but because it is unsatisfactory to do so on a forum like this.
Buzzer
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- Oct 1, 2006
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Yes...I am aware of that and it's been answered. The point still stands. Something came from nothing or if not nothing, something very mysterious and unknowable.
How does Jesus make tea? Hebrews it.