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Trigger

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Jul 4, 2003
40,457
Brighton
Ryan 8

Bruno 6
Dunk 7
Duffy 7
Bong 6

Stephens 6
Propper 7
Izquierdo 6
March 7

Gross 6
Brown 6

Subs:
Knockaert 5
Schelloto 5
Murray 6 (Marked up 1 for having a good effort)
 
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Hammer15

New member
Apr 20, 2016
272
Montclair, NJ
Not gonna rate the subs as it ruins the ratings.

I've changed the sheet so that it only includes sub ratings where they've been rated by 10 people. Doesn't quite fix the problem outright but sub ratings are much better than before.

EDIT - and noted that you changed them as a result of this!
 
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One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
21,482
Worthing
Just back from the game.

6 - average

Ryan - 8
Bruno - 8
Dunk - 7
Duffy - 7
Bong - 6
Izquierdo - 6
Stephens - 7
Propper - 6
March - 7
Gross - 6
Brown 6 - did his best.

Schelotto - 6
Murray - 6
Knockaert - 6

Thought the ref was okay as well.

Arsenal support worse than pathetic....... Made Watford sound loud and more than a little embarrassing.
 


RM-Taylor

He's Magic.... You Know
Jan 7, 2006
15,267
On way back to the Midlands on train. My ratings are based on my view of the players performances, it doesn't matter who we play whether that be Arsenal away or Accrington Stanley away.

Ryan - 9 - our MOTM, several decent saves

Bruno - 6 - few misplaced passes and gave away possession a fair bit today
Dunk - 7 - first half a 6, second half an 8. Some great cross field passes and final clearances but seems to make at least one mistake a game so far
Duffy - 6 - not as good today as in recent games
Bong - 5 - not sure why he played, seemed out of position a lot and also gave the ball away cheaply far too many times. Was Suttner injured?

March - 8 - brilliant performance, awesome free-kick. Looks to have developed loads over the summer
Propper - 7 - maybe should have scored at the end, better of the two central midfielders today. Not afraid to get stuck in
Stephens - 5 - really poor today, probably his worst performance of the season so far
Izquierdo - 6 - a few runs made in the first half and one chance where I think he should have passed instead of shot. Did nothing second half

Gross - 6 - seemed to bottle it a bit today, not making the same sort of passes or contribution he has in the last few games
Brown - 5 - maybe harsh but not a striker but he had no service

Schellotto - no idea why he came on really
Knockaert - looked lively and up for it when he came on, hopefully this is more of the AK we see going forwards
Murray - thought he scored, we looked a lot better after he and AK both came on to the field.
 




SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Sep 28, 2004
11,283
Izmir, Southern Turkey
RYAN - 8 MOM really good game had no chance with the goals
Bruno - 6 - OK. Had no chance to really get forward and was never caught out.
Bong - 6 - Quite good but always the occasional ricket with him. Prefer Suttne rbut maybe Bong is better defesive
Duffy - 7 good game
Dunk 7.9. - Excellent but just outshone by Ryan
Stephens - 5.5 Out of postion, liable to give away a foul but 75% time reliable. Not enough today though.
Propper 6 Better but no great shakes. Our midfield didn't really work today.
Izquierdo - 5.5. Occasional flashes but mostly dross. Needs to improve.
March - 7 - solid reliable but less dangerous today... probably because he had no midfield support.
Gross - 6.5 In and out of this game... sometimes great, sometimes poor passing and giving the ball away. Today we had to rely on him too much and if we continue to do this teams will just mark him out of the game.
Brown - 3 - Poor... didn't really track back, seemed uninterested. generally missing. Hemed was missed.

Subs -

It is no surprise that we looked better when Knocky and Muzza were on. Schelotto didn't really get going.

Overall today a good measure of where we are. Lessons learned, nothing lost... move on.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Ryan - 7
Bruno - 6
Dunk - 8
Duffy - 6
Bong - 6
Izquierdo - 5
Stephens - 5
Propper - 7
March - 8
Gross - 6
Brown - 5

Schelotto - 7 (loads of promise)
Murray - 6
Knockaert - 6
 


stss30

Registered User
Apr 24, 2008
9,545
On way back to the Midlands on train. My ratings are based on my view of the players performances, it doesn't matter who we play whether that be Arsenal away or Accrington Stanley away.

Ryan - 9 - our MOTM, several decent saves

Bruno - 6 - few misplaced passes and gave away possession a fair bit today
Dunk - 7 - first half a 6, second half an 8. Some great cross field passes and final clearances but seems to make at least one mistake a game so far
Duffy - 6 - not as good today as in recent games
Bong - 5 - not sure why he played, seemed out of position a lot and also gave the ball away cheaply far too many times. Was Suttner injured?

March - 8 - brilliant performance, awesome free-kick. Looks to have developed loads over the summer
Propper - 7 - maybe should have scored at the end, better of the two central midfielders today. Not afraid to get stuck in
Stephens - 5 - really poor today, probably his worst performance of the season so far
Izquierdo - 6 - a few runs made in the first half and one chance where I think he should have passed instead of shot. Did nothing second half

Gross - 6 - seemed to bottle it a bit today, not making the same sort of passes or contribution he has in the last few games
Brown - 5 - maybe harsh but not a striker but he had no service

Schellotto - no idea why he came on really
Knockaert - looked lively and up for it when he came on, hopefully this is more of the AK we see going forwards
Murray - thought he scored, we looked a lot better after he and AK both came on to the field.

Afraid you're chatting shite about Brown imo, very little service but held the ball up as well as he could especially in the 2nd half when he had very little service.
 




Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ

Hove / Παρος
Apr 7, 2006
6,522
Hove / Παρος
Ryan 8 - Some good saves
Bruno 6 - Quiet game
Dunk 7 - Did well generally
Duffy 7 - Same as Dunky
Bong 6 - Hesitant and some sloppy passing
Stephens 5 - Gave the ball away too easily
Propper 6 - Also gave the ball away but got forward well
Izquierdo 6 - Needs more game time to get up to speed
Gross 5 - Quiet
March 7 - Our best player
Brown 6 - Did well in the first half with his link up play but faded after the break understandably coming back from injury
 


warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,201
Beaminster, Dorset
Think some of the scores on here do an injustice. This was a 'free hit' game that expected to lose and be outclassed, and I was warmed that we did have a bit of a go, especially near the end. Lazacette was several £ms more than our total expenditure, Alexis Sanchez is truly world class, and Giroud/Walcott came on as subs. It's a different world and we need to judge our guys on that basis.

Ryan - 8 couple fo good saves, looked assured
Bruno - 5 dont understand the good scores for him, Had a real day off with some MEH passes that were one of the few things that got the plastics going
Dunk 7 - one of our own
Duffy - 6 nearly cost a goal first half and booted the post in annoyance at himself
Bong - 6 difficult to judge as on same side as Izquierdo who is clealry finding feet
Stephens - 7 made some good challenges. Must give credit to technical skills of oppo for making his day difficult. He is bottom 14 standard, not top 6.
Propper - 7 as DS
Izquierdo - 6 some odd flashes but work in progress, gonna have to be patient here, but can see negative NSC threads waiting in the wings.....
March - 8 actually did look top 6 standard at times, v unlucky not to score
Gross - 7 worked hard
Brown - 6 maybe harsh as it is lonely upfront when facing back to goal and not a lot of support

Muzza - 7 made a difference
Scheletto - 6 got himself in area near the end
Knocky - 7 enthusiastic
 


kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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RYAN - 8 MOM really good game had no chance with the goals
Bruno - 6 - OK. Had no chance to really get forward and was never caught out.
Bong - 6 - Quite good but always the occasional ricket with him. Prefer Suttne rbut maybe Bong is better defesive
Duffy - 7 good game
Dunk 7.9. - Excellent but just outshone by Ryan
Stephens - 5.5 Out of postion, liable to give away a foul but 75% time reliable. Not enough today though.
Propper 6 Better but no great shakes. Our midfield didn't really work today.
Izquierdo - 5.5. Occasional flashes but mostly dross. Needs to improve.
March - 7 - solid reliable but less dangerous today... probably because he had no midfield support.
Gross - 6.5 In and out of this game... sometimes great, sometimes poor passing and giving the ball away. Today we had to rely on him too much and if we continue to do this teams will just mark him out of the game.
Brown - 3 - Poor... didn't really track back, seemed uninterested. generally missing. Hemed was missed.

Subs -

It is no surprise that we looked better when Knocky and Muzza were on. Schelotto didn't really get going.

Overall today a good measure of where we are. Lessons learned, nothing lost... move on.

Brown 3. Really???
 






One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
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Worthing
Bruno - 5 dont understand the good scores for him, Had a real day off with some MEH passes that were one of the few things that got the plastics going

Couldn't disagree more, positionally he was excellent. Worked well with March, thought he played really well.

I certainly don't think the right side of the team was exploited.
 


afters

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Jul 9, 2003
6,819
as 10cc say, not in hove
Ryan 8

Bruno 6
Dunk 8.5 - immense, a proper PL defender
Duffy 7
Bong 6

Stephens 5 - keeps on passing backwards, and losing the ball far too often
Propper 7
Izquierdo 6 -hasn't really got going yet has he?
March 8 - excellent in attack and defence

Gross 6
Brown 6.5 - isolated but tried

Subs:
Knockaert 5.5
Schelloto 6 - looked good
Murray 6
 
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Mayonaise

Well-known member
May 25, 2014
2,114
Haywards Heath
Think some of the scores on here do an injustice. This was a 'free hit' game that expected to lose and be outclassed, and I was warmed that we did have a bit of a go, especially near the end. Lazacette was several £ms more than our total expenditure, Alexis Sanchez is truly world class, and Giroud/Walcott came on as subs. It's a different world and we need to judge our guys on that basis.

Ryan - 8 couple fo good saves, looked assured
Bruno - 5 dont understand the good scores for him, Had a real day off with some MEH passes that were one of the few things that got the plastics going
Dunk 7 - one of our own
Duffy - 6 nearly cost a goal first half and booted the post in annoyance at himself
Bong - 6 difficult to judge as on same side as Izquierdo who is clealry finding feet
Stephens - 7 made some good challenges. Must give credit to technical skills of oppo for making his day difficult. He is bottom 14 standard, not top 6.
Propper - 7 as DS
Izquierdo - 6 some odd flashes but work in progress, gonna have to be patient here, but can see negative NSC threads waiting in the wings.....
March - 8 actually did look top 6 standard at times, v unlucky not to score
Gross - 7 worked hard
Brown - 6 maybe harsh as it is lonely upfront when facing back to goal and not a lot of support

Muzza - 7 made a difference
Scheletto - 6 got himself in area near the end
Knocky - 7 enthusiastic

This is how I saw it
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Ryan 7 did all that was expected of him with no mistake
Bruno 6 not a great performance but ok
Duffy 7. Solid as usual
Dunk 9 MOM by a mile
Bong 6 Did ok
March 7 our most dangerous going forward should never have come off.
Propper 6 Bit anonymous
Stephens 6 Somd good and some poor points.
Gross 6 very quiet until Murray came on.
Izquierdo 6 offered a lot but showed he lacks match practices
Brown 6. Looked lost, not his fault, and offered nothing for us going forward
Subs
Schletto 5 didnt even notice him for doing anything good or bad
Murray 6 Gave us hope and options when he came on.
Knockaert 5 Living on last seasons praise

CH 5. We were very poor tactically and scared of Arsenal and it showed in their approach and play.
 


DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
6,310
Wiltshire
Ryan 8 - he's getting better and kept us in it at times
Bruno 6 - didn't let anyone down against a formidable front line
Bong 7 - decent return. Noticeably added pace down the left
Dunk 8 - standard
Duffy 7 - not as sophisticated as Lewis but looks a premier league player
Stephens 6 not easy for him, made some decent interceptions
Propper 5 - classy player but often ponderous which doesn't suit the prem well
March 7 - getting close to really making a name for himself
Izquierdo 6 - clearly has something but didn't get much space today
Brown 6 - bit innocuous . Should have been given ball more
Gross 6 - not as influential as in some other games

Subs
The Greyhound - 6 - I like the look of him
Murray - 7 immediately looked a handful
Knockaert 6
 
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studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,553
On the Border
Ryan 8

Bruno 7
Duffy 8
Dunk 8
Bong 7

March 8 maybe higher if not taken off early
Propper 7
Stephens 7
Gross 7
Izquierdo 6

Brown 5

Schletto 6
Murray 6
Knockaert 5.5
 




Super Steve Earle

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
8,313
North of Brighton
On way back to the Midlands on train. My ratings are based on my view of the players performances, it doesn't matter who we play whether that be Arsenal away or Accrington Stanley away.

Ryan - 9 - our MOTM, several decent saves, SSE says - 7 - Couldn't do much with the goals, but certainly not MoM.

Bruno - 6 - few misplaced passes and gave away possession a fair bit today, SSE says - 5 - Really made little impression, not his best.
Dunk - 7 - first half a 6, second half an 8. Some great cross field passes and final clearances but seems to make at least one mistake a game so far. SSE says - 8.5 - Another superb game
Duffy - 6 - not as good today as in recent games SSE says - 8.5 Every bit the equal of Dunk today - this partnership could keep us up
Bong - 5 - not sure why he played, seemed out of position a lot and also gave the ball away cheaply far too many times. Was Suttner injured? SSE says - 7 - Did little wrong, presumably CH wanted someone pacier than Suttner which worked.
March - 8 - brilliant performance, awesome free-kick. Looks to have developed loads over the summer. SSE says - 8 - Agreed :)
Propper - 7 - maybe should have scored at the end, better of the two central midfielders today. Not afraid to get stuck in SSE says - 7 - Agreed again :)
Stephens - 5 - really poor today, probably his worst performance of the season so far SSE says - 9 - Probably his best performance so far this season and adjusting to the pace nicely,
Izquierdo - 6 - a few runs made in the first half and one chance where I think he should have passed instead of shot. Did nothing second half SSE says - 4 - off the pace of the game and gave away the crucial free kick from which they scored the first goal.
Gross - 6 - seemed to bottle it a bit today, not making the same sort of passes or contribution he has in the last few games, SSE says - 6 - seemed flattened by feelings of injustice about the first goal and inhibited by the consequent yellow card.
Brown - 5 - maybe harsh but not a striker but he had no service SSE says - 5 - Can't disagree with that

Schellotto - no idea why he came on really SSE says - I thought he looked lively, promising and shored up his side of midfield. Really got involved up and down the pitch.
Knockaert - looked lively and up for it when he came on, hopefully this is more of the AK we see going forwards - SSE says - sorry, I disagree. Clearly out of sorts and added little of note, beyond his usual 100% effort.
Murray - thought he scored, we looked a lot better after he and AK both came on to the field.SSE says - Yeah, the pub thought he scored too. Muzza looked hungry and sharp.


Thought I'd add my thoughts from the pub. No disrespect to RMT whose views are as valid as mine. Just thought it interesting to compare and contrast the view from the pub with the guy who made the effort to go:)
 
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maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
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Ryan - 8
Bruno - 7
Dunk - 8
Duffy - 7
Bong - 6
Izquierdo - 5
Stephens - 7
Propper - 6
March - 7
Gross - 6
Brown 5

Schelotto - 5
Murray - 6
Knockaert - 5

From the TV
 



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