Conspiracy Theorists

Goldstone1976 said:

You think I didn't know it was you when I approved your first post last night?

You're trolling the Board - please stop.

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Hungry Joe said:

So do we draw the conclusion from that that booze is good for the brain whereas fertilizer weed turns you into a nutjob?

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richard barker said:

ok on a serious note, what is your interpretation of trolling as there are many different variations ( from what i gather,) i didnt join your site to be rude to people or become a pain ,just wanted to put my opinion across on the matter in the discussion , having viewed many different threads on here i don't feel that my comments warranted a lifetime ban , a warning would have been apt , i look forward to your response..

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Goldstone1976 said:

The rules of the site are very straight forward - as you know with your main account. Follow those same rules with this account, and you'll be fine. Don't, and you won't. Enjoy NSC.

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brighton fella said:

If i may say so...and to Mr Barkers defense the ban was harsh, as was pointed out by myself earlier .

I am curious to know had Mr Barker shared the majority opinion that all CT's were nut jobs would he have received a ban. ?

Insults have been dished out by both sides , fair is fair surely.?

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brighton fella said:

If i may say so...and to Mr Barkers defense the ban was harsh, as was pointed out by myself earlier .

I am curious to know had Mr Barker shared the majority opinion that all CT's were nut jobs would he have received a ban. ?

Insults have been dished out by both sides , fair is fair surely.?

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Juan Albion said:

Truth is a valid defence.

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Hungry Joe said:

I (think I) only know 2 conspiracy theory folk. Both of them smoke enough hydroponically grown weed to stone a small ship every day. Chicken or egg I wonder?

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Triggaaar said:

I don't need to find it, I've got it in front of me. You want it, you find it.

So you say this

that's pretty funny. colinz and I had an identical discussion there. I don't think I used any insults though, sorry Mega. I showed some footage showing that the footage wasn't faked, and colinz didn't reply. I think he's frightened to question his own bias.

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So first you tell me to find the footage my self so I can defend my self. Not only do you not tell me what to look for, but you say I should find it myself because you can't find it. Then you say you've had it in front of you but won't show me. Have you reached puberty yet ? Oh you must have 32,000 plus posts in 12 years.

The CTs say that the nose of the plane went through the building intact. No footage shows this. None. The physics is that the plane went into the tower, broke up, and some bits of the plane exited the tower, and there was an explosion. That's it.

There's some CT footage that looks at the shape of the plane before impact and the shape that exits the building, and the shapes are different.

Is it live footage that aired at the time showing UA175 impacting WCT2

You posted a link to show how software could be used to make it seem that the 'fake plane' slowed down as it went through the tower. That's at odds with earlier CT videos that claimed that the so called nose of the plane exited at the same speed as it went in.

As the plane impacted the Tower it was made to look as though it had slowed down on impact, but it appeared to then keep travelling on through the Tower because of the exiting nose cone

That video says that in the live shot they tried to mask off the left half of the screen, but that the helicopter moved, so the mask didn't work as intended. I'll go through some of the holes in this theory:
- Had the so called mask worked as they say it should have, we'd have seen nothing exit the left side of the tower. This would then not match any other video taken, as all videos show that debris exited the left of the tower.

Are these the live videos shown in real time ?

Had the masking worked on the Fox video the Nosecone of UA175, wouldn't have been seen coming out the other side of the Tower.

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Obviously helicopters move, if they had wanted to fake this they could have had a news crew filming with a tripod from a nearby tower instead, obviously you wouldn't choose to create live fake footage from a moving helicopter.

The footage was more plausible being filmed from a helicopter because of the height perspective needed, what other nearby building had the height of the upper part of WCT2 ?(please don't say WTC1)

If there was a fixed mask used over the footage, with the mask position fixed on the centre of the image, then the plane (and its movement) would also be fixed withing the frame, so as the live image moves up and down, the plane would appear to jump up and down, which would look silly.

The fixed mask layer was the layer for the CGI plane. It's edge was up to the left half of the screen down the middle of where the South Tower was to be. It couldn't err to far to the right because the CGI plane could then reach the edge of it's mask area stopping in mid air, before impacting the Tower.
But the Chopper drifted to far to the right, so the left edge of the South Tower was no longer over the CGI plane's masked area.
The CGI plane literally travels behind the building with the exposed nosecone, travelling until it reaches it's masked layer.


You must agree that even if terrorists hadn't committed this attack, they'd have wanted to given the chance.
So if the US were behind the attack, the easiest thing would have been to get a couple of terrorists to fly planes into the towers. Even if the towers hadn't collapsed, many people would still have died, which would have given them reason to go to war.

There you go again with flawed Logistical Analysis. What pop over to Afghanistan and slip Bin Laden a hand book on how to out Fox (no pun intended)
the most protected Air Space in the World

We've had proof of evolution for many years, yet some people still choose to ignore it and claim we all came from Adam and eve. You're like them, and it doesn't matter what evidence proves you wrong, you will blindly stick to your belief.

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colinz said:

So first you tell me to find the footage my self so I can defend my self. Not only do you not tell me what to look for, but you say I should find it myself because you can't find it.

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Then you say you've had it in front of you but won't show me. Have you reached puberty yet ?

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Triggaaar said:

No, I never said I couldn't find it. I said:
"I showed some footage showing that the footage wasn't faked, and colinz didn't reply"
You replied "What footage ? "
Having noticed we'd been through all this before, I pointed out that you're unwilling to accept all the evidence given to you, and that there's not much point in anyone explaining things to you, so I said:
"You can find the post" because I can't be bothered with you.
You replied "You find the post you lazy fuk."

Your rudeness didn't exactly make me feel like complying, so I didn't.

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Having noticed we'd been through all this before, I pointed out that you're unwilling to accept all the evidence given to you, and that there's not much point in anyone explaining things to you, so I said:

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You replied "You find the post you lazy fuk."

Your rudeness didn't exactly make me feel like complying, so I didn't.

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mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:

I, of course, wouldn't want to DARE suggest that these conspiracy nuts are unbalanced or unwilling to listen to alternative views....however, do they, once they believe they've DISCOVERED the truth (ie stumbled across a youtube video made by a 40 year old bloke living in his mums spare room), spend the same amount of time looking for videos which discredit the conspiracy theory?

Surely, they wouldn't digest a conspiracy theory and then not spend time assessing whether this is valid? That would be crazy.

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colinz said:

What 5 and a half years ago. Why not link the post to me now.

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Ahh diddums maybe that's because you were behaving like a lazy fuk.

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Triggaaar said:

Because from reading your posts both now, and 5 and a half years ago, I've deduced that you're a lost cause. You're either too high or too stupid to understand what happened.

Diddums I'm not bothered about you or your insults.

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richard barker said:

Thanks for your support brighton fella...

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brighton fella said:

No problem mate, I detest double standards.full stop.

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