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Which Youth Subculture Did You or Do You Most Identify With?
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Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Yeah ok, I did not check my spelling before posting... idiot that I am.
Psychobilly is defiantly a different sub culture they hated each other and would fight when they crossed paths. It is different dress code, everything, but I get your point.
Gabbafella
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- Aug 22, 2012
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My definition/underdtanding of gabba is perhaps different to yours then but pretty 220BPM - HMS and the like, you call that hardcore? (where do you call that hardcore out of interest). Used to sometimes wander into a "gabba" (by my definition/hardcore by yours) room at events and like it for an hour or two tops - ****in dangerous trying to do an all nighter dancing to that!
Thanks for the link
Gabba originated from Germany (originally called Gabba house) and the BPM is much lower, around the 160-170 mark, tends to be more like dance/trance but with distorted kicks. Hardcore is Dutch in origin and can vary from 170-220bpm but anything faster and you're getting into the realm of speedcore and terror, that stuff is crazy though, top end of that is 600+BPM which is too mental for me. Much like jungle back in the day which spawned drum n bass, breakbeat, jump up, even dubstep and garage to a degree, hardcore/Gabba evolved into loads of different styles too.
I think the MCs of that era started mistakingly calling it Gabba and it just stuck.
Used to do all nighters to that stuff (maybe slightly "assisted") all the time, met some bizarre characters over the years, never a dull night though.
AmexRuislip
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Soul Boy, just couldnt get enough of the sounds, classic.
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maffew
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600 BPM WTF thats 10 beats per second. Gonna google it now must be like dancing to a fricking machine gun never heard of speed core. I feel a bit of a lightweight now!
Saladpack Seagull
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Well, it was a long time ago now and those of us from that era and persuasion are gradually becoming fewer in number. Of course apart from the clothing in the late Sixties skin culture there always seemed to be a West Indian guy (source of reggae records!) in every group, as well as the total nutter who always threw train light-bulbs out of the window! Relatively harmless youthful fun I suppose and none of my lot got involved in Paki/Queer bashing which was part of that culture for a time. And let's not forget "jogging" everywhere when in large groups at football, scarves on wrists of course!
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Surely scooter boys were Mods?
I remember having a (brief) conversation with a fully Quadrophenia'd up look-alike in the Lanchester Polytechnic SU Bar in 1981 when I pointed out he was almost 10 years too late to be a genuine Mod and he got a bit upset.
I never felt I was a Rocker and that it was the 1960s, even when I was riding Norton Dominators and Commandos back then. All a bit like military re-enactment societies pretending to be Cavaliers and Roundheads I thought...
Scooter Boys were again not mods, they dressed in army combats, flight jacket and docs maybe had flat tops or quiffs they also either put more extravagant paintings on their scooters or chopped them like big bikes for a laugh.
They even to this day have different rallies , with a more varied musical taste available other than soul, Motown or the who and the likes playing, anything from Bad manners, Spear of Destiny, King Kurt and Tenpole Tuder basically it was not up it's own arse like the mod scene was.
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I suppose at a real push I'd ay Grunge but that's pushing it. I never conformed to a particular group except the kids that didn't fit into a strict subset. This made us naturally, the coolest kids on the block.
One week we would be at a Soundgarden gig in London, the next weekend we'd be at some ravey nonsense in a field in Surrey and spend the Sunday on our mates motorbikes or rock climbing at Harrison's Rocks.
I'd say we mixed with most except I usually avoided any Ska/Reggae/Rasta gatherings as it really doesn't appeal to me. Other than that, most things seemed interesting.
Edit: Tell a lie, I did go Straight Edge for about a month. I like beer too much and the majority of them were hypocritical bellends.
One week we would be at a Soundgarden gig in London, the next weekend we'd be at some ravey nonsense in a field in Surrey and spend the Sunday on our mates motorbikes or rock climbing at Harrison's Rocks.
I'd say we mixed with most except I usually avoided any Ska/Reggae/Rasta gatherings as it really doesn't appeal to me. Other than that, most things seemed interesting.
Edit: Tell a lie, I did go Straight Edge for about a month. I like beer too much and the majority of them were hypocritical bellends.
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maffew
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WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ5uAWUQ4Yk 900+ BPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRo62RjuGY&list=RDmlRo62RjuGY&t=4 100k BPM
Thanks
I though "Gabba"/Hardcore was ridiculous this is bizarre!!!!
jakarta
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Thanks for that, honestly never heard of that subset before. When I lived oop north & in the midlands it was all faux mods who rode scooters - was it a southern thing that stayed where it started?
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
No a lot of the northern towns had scooter clubs, and most of the rallies were actually up Norf like Morecombe, Southport, Skegness etc
I was in a several scooter clubs back in the mid/late 80s in Wigan, Stockport and Ormskirk we would have upwards to 30-40 members paying subs and going off on jollies causing mayhem. We did not like the mods, and they in turn did not like us *******ising the scooters and scene so they split.
Mackenzie
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None really. I was just a kid who liked sport and got on with things.
jakarta
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Fair enough by the late 1980's I was pushing thirty and didn't really pay attention to any of this stuff!
Gabbafella
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- Aug 22, 2012
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WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ5uAWUQ4Yk 900+ BPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRo62RjuGY&list=RDmlRo62RjuGY&t=4 100k BPM
Thanks
It's a bit much for me.
I tend to go for faster hardcore but I stop finding it enjoyable once it goes beyond the 250bpm mark.
Although the harder the kick the better.
The Large One
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Pretty much ALL of this though moved into Drum and Bass and House after that hardcore scene. Was a big time raver during my A-level years and early uni.