saafend_seagull
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So the form is meaningless. Exactly. Agreed terms but falls through based on nothing per your logic.
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[Albion] Vincent Janssen
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So the form is meaningless. Exactly. Agreed terms but falls through based on nothing per your logic.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Player recruitment has been absolutely sensational for the last few years. Yes we're all disappointed we didn't land the striker we clearly need but let's not blame the whole excellent system over one failure. I appreciate it's a very key area but it seems like a bit of bad luck played its part too.
A player failed a medical and another pulled out on the 11th hour. Don't act like the club didn't try. Would you rather we did a Sunderland and brought it useless donkies? I'm pissed off too we don't have a new striker, but it's clear the club hasn't sat on its arse for 4 months.
The Wookiee
Back From The Dead
We should have bought Krull, leaving an opportunity to take a striker on loan !
Using our last loan on Krull is ridiculous business, am sure we could have signed him on a one year contract
Using our last loan on Krull is ridiculous business, am sure we could have signed him on a one year contract
Whitechapel
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Not meaningless - enough to persuade the PL to grant a 2 hour extension.
The point you made (twice, despite many people telling you that you were wrong) that I was refuting was that you said the player didn't have to sign it. They do. That's all I was saying.
The value of the form is that it gives an extra 2 hours to get a possible deal over the line. In this case, it didn't work.
I'm sorry! I don't think it's been so excellent. We have repeatedly gambled on transfers- both in keeping the price down and in who we've signed. This time it just didn't pay off. I'm absolutely gutted that our recruitment team have left us with onevfit (and not good enough) striker
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poidy
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- Aug 3, 2009
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I didn't for one second suggest they've been sat on their arse. But to fail to sign ONE striker (we actually probably needed two top quality ones) in four months is incompetence at its best. I dare say we also lost some of our targets due to a reluctance to pay what was being asked. Slightly ironic given another season in the Premier League is worth circa £200 million. Money that we can kiss goodbye to because we sure as hell won't be in this division next season now.
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Don Quixote
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- Nov 4, 2008
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There's no excuse for it. It's a disaster.
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mreprice
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I'm with you on this. I think that was a major error.
Don Parasol
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- Jan 29, 2017
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I would call it a massive failure to not land a striker, but not a disgrace. Unless you know a lot about what is going on behind closed doors, I don't think you can lay the blame only at PW or the the recruitment team.
Wages have clearly been a massive constraint during the window - Janssen must have agreed terms in principle to register a deal sheet, after which he backed out. We've been turned down by 3-4 other European targets in the last few days (that we know about). If Janssen wanted £70k and our wage cap is say £40k, it's our inability to be flexible that is costing us the really good players.
Sure, we should have got in an average player earlier in the window... But we don't know to what extent Winstanley's hands were tied throughout. It seems to me that a lot of funds were made available very recently. Maybe Tony miscalculated things. Whatever it was, he's a big part of why we're doing so well these days so I don't see the point in writing the season off already, as some are advocating.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Have a look back at who we've signed in the last few years and how they've turned out.. best success rate I've known. Yes it's a bit of a joke not to get a striker in but there are other players who can play up tops who've not been mentioned too. Annoying but let's not forget the great recruitment over the last few years. I remember how excited we were when Craig Davies signed for 300k. We've spent £10mil and £13mil on 2 players. Let's just support the club now...
Whitechapel
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Sometimes players get found out when they step up a level.
Sometimes managers get found out when they step up a level.
Maybe our recruitment team have failed with the step up.
However you look at it, we've known since we were promoted that the most important area to address was strikers. And we've gone out and signed more goalkeepers than strikers. We've signed more wingers than strikers,despite wingers being arguably our strongest position last season. It's annoying that we've had Deportivo screw us over when it came to Andone whilst Janssen and Babacar said no BUT these options should not have been left until there was 48 hours of the window left, that's the problem.
Not Andy Naylor
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In the end, the recruitment department identified players that we wanted, but if, one by one, the deals fell through - because clubs didn't want to sell, players didn't want to come, or medicals were failed - then of course the club had to keep trying until the last minute.
CH now has to prove what a great manager he is and get the new players to show why we bought them, and some of the guys who got us here to show that they can step up - Stephens, for example, was desperate to play in the Premier League a year ago, so let's see some of that desire in the coming months. I just hope the players aren't as defeatist as some people on here.
CH now has to prove what a great manager he is and get the new players to show why we bought them, and some of the guys who got us here to show that they can step up - Stephens, for example, was desperate to play in the Premier League a year ago, so let's see some of that desire in the coming months. I just hope the players aren't as defeatist as some people on here.
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Has he already mention that
.. because that would have given us a few hours to find a loan striker or maybe minutes whilst be negotiated the deal ON THE LAST DAY !!!!
I sincerely hope none of you are project managers identifying small pockets of opportunity to roll a dice.
Has he already mention that
.. because that would have given us a few hours to find a loan striker or maybe minutes whilst be negotiated the deal ON THE LAST DAY !!!!
I sincerely hope none of you are project managers identifying small pockets of opportunity to roll a dice.
What is it with you and project managers tonight ? Who needs to be a manager when you can look at FIFA stats? Come on behave.
No sugar coating this. We're not going to score enough goals, simple as. This window has mainly been a disappointment
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Sussex Nomad
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Having just got up and made a first stop at the Argus to see who we've signed up top, have to say, in agreement with you. Thoroughly disappointing.