[Albion] Vincent Janssen

Mellor 3 Ward 4 · Sep 8, 2017

Thunder Bolt said:
Again, it wasn't an either/or situation. We needed a third gk and a striker. One worked out, one didn't.

Yes, but by using our second loan on a goalkeeper, it meant we couldn't sign a striker on loan.

A third goalkeeper, or a striker. Not too tough a choice.

Yes, there was a choice, and IMO the club made the wrong decision.

Don't be fooled by Barber's spin.

Thunder Bolt · Sep 9, 2017

Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
Yes, but by using our second loan on a goalkeeper, it meant we couldn't sign a striker on loan.

A third goalkeeper, or a striker. Not too tough a choice.

Yes, there was a choice, and IMO the club made the wrong decision.

Don't be fooled by Barber's spin.

I'm not fooled by Barber's spin. We weren't going to get a striker on loan, once Abraham had gone to Swansea.

Murray 17 · Sep 9, 2017

Weststander said:
"French club Lille turned down the chance to sign Vincent Janssen because their manager Marcelo Bielsa had doubts over the Tottenham striker’s technique."
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/lille-turned-down-move-for-tottenham-flop-vincent-janssen-due-to-doubts-over-technique-a3629766.html

The PC way to say he is rubbish! [emoji23]

ferring seagull · Oct 10, 2017

Impressive tonight for the Netherlands

NOT !

The Large One · Oct 10, 2017

Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
Yes, but by using our second loan on a goalkeeper, it meant we couldn't sign a striker on loan.

A third goalkeeper, or a striker. Not too tough a choice.

Yes, there was a choice, and IMO the club made the wrong decision.

Don't be fooled by Barber's spin.

A second choice goalkeeper, actually. And no strikers so high up our wants list available on loan - except where you've decided they are.

You've basically accused Barber of lying.

crasher · Oct 10, 2017

The Large One said:
A second choice goalkeeper, actually. And no strikers so high up our wants list available on loan - except where you've decided they are.

You've basically accused Barber of lying.

Thou shalt not question the club. Apparently.

Mellor 3 Ward 4 · Oct 10, 2017

The Large One said:
A second choice goalkeeper, actually. And no strikers so high up our wants list available on loan - except where you've decided they are.

You've basically accused Barber of lying.

If you took the trouble to read what I wrote, I said a third goalkeeper. Not a third choice goalkeeper.

Actually.

BensGrandad · Oct 10, 2017

When did they decide that Maenpaa wasnt good enough to sit on the bench as back up to Ryan?

S'hampton Seagull · Oct 10, 2017

BensGrandad said:
When did they decide that Maenpaa wasnt good enough to sit on the bench as back up to Ryan?

When they could get a goalkeeper with well over 100 premier league apps and numerous international appearances to do it instead

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The Large One · Oct 10, 2017

crasher said:
Thou shalt not question the club. Apparently.

What a pitifully nonsensical thing to write. We question the club all the time. You might not bother to question them, but that's up to you. Gobbing off from the back with silly statements isn't 'questioning' them.

However, if you can find the first-hand, peer-tested evidence that Barber is lying, and that you know more about the situation than he does, let us know.

Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
If you took the trouble to read what I wrote, I said a third goalkeeper. Not a third choice goalkeeper.

Actually.

And your point about having a third goalkeeper (which we also desperately needed) is...?

LamieRobertson · Oct 10, 2017

Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
Yes, but by using our second loan on a goalkeeper, it meant we couldn't sign a striker on loan.

A third goalkeeper, or a striker. Not too tough a choice.

Yes, there was a choice, and IMO the club made the wrong decision.

Don't be fooled by Barber's spin.

Is that from the loan striker tree?

crasher · Oct 11, 2017

The Large One said:
What a pitifully nonsensical thing to write. We question the club all the time. You might not bother to question them, but that's up to you. Gobbing off from the back with silly statements isn't 'questioning' them.

However, if you can find the first-hand, peer-tested evidence that Barber is lying, and that you know more about the situation than he does, let us know.

Do you have the faintest idea of how patronisingly you always come across on this board? You appear as a pompous self-appointed club policeman.

Worse than that you appear to twist what other people say. I question the club when I feel it's justified - that's pretty much my entire point. So to claim that 'I might not bother to' is just mendacious.

And your point about 'evidence' that Barber is lying is utterly irrelevant. I never said he is lying and nor did the Mellor 3. What he said was that there was 'spin' - spin isn't the same as lying, it's presenting facts in a particular light - something we all do on occasion.

So wind your neck in your boring *******.

The_Viper · Oct 11, 2017

LamieRobertson said:
Is that from the loan striker tree?

Didn't we turn down or show little interest in Niasse?

BensGrandad · Oct 11, 2017

S'hampton Seagull said:
When they could get a goalkeeper with well over 100 premier league apps and numerous international appearances to do it instead

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At the cost of a striker with the keeper likely to occupy the bench seat and a striker desperately needed. Whether its correct or not I believe that we only signed Krul on loan as we couldnt do the deal before the deadline, as indicated by Benitez that we had been after him for a long time. By signing him on loan we were able to convert the loan to permanent when it was all sorted As a result of this loan we were unable to sign a loan striker.

S'hampton Seagull · Oct 11, 2017

BensGrandad said:
At the cost of a striker with the keeper likely to occupy the bench seat and a striker desperately needed. Whether its correct or not I believe that we only signed Krul on loan as we couldnt do the deal before the deadline, as indicated by Benitez that we had been after him for a long time. By signing him on loan we were able to convert the loan to permanent when it was all sorted As a result of this loan we were unable to sign a loan striker.

Barber has already said Tottenham were not willing to loan him to another Prem club. He is only on loan now as that was the only option Spurs had left to get rid.

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bhanutz · Oct 11, 2017

crasher said:
Do you have the faintest idea of how patronisingly you always come across on this board? You appear as a pompous self-appointed club policeman.

Worse than that you appear to twist what other people say. I question the club when I feel it's justified - that's pretty much my entire point. So to claim that 'I might not bother to' is just mendacious.

And your point about 'evidence' that Barber is lying is utterly irrelevant. I never said he is lying and nor did the Mellor 3. What he said was that there was 'spin' - spin isn't the same as lying, it's presenting facts in a particular light - something we all do on occasion.

So wind your neck in your boring *******.

I really don’t think he does notice.... he believes his own hype...the most patronising prat on here.

lovelyboy · Oct 11, 2017

It was a huge huge cock up from the club. Anyone who can't see that really has swallowed all of Barber's spin hook line and sinker

drew · Oct 11, 2017

So, which striker that we thought was up to the job did we not get on loan due to signing Krul? Seems the reason our targets did not come was due to other things, inherent heart problems, current club changing their mind and for Janssen, just didn't want to come here.

Or, those claiming we didn't get someone because of Krul would have been happy with anyone signing as long as somewhere on their CV it said striker/forward.

BensGrandad · Oct 11, 2017

S'hampton Seagull said:
Barber has already said Tottenham were not willing to loan him to another Prem club. He is only on loan now as that was the only option Spurs had left to get rid.

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I wasnt referring to Jansen specifically as had we done the deal for Krul earlier we could have gone after another loan striker from another top club. As we didnt we couldnt and so it didnt matter when the Jansen deal fell through because as you say Spurs werent prepared to loan him to another Premier Club.

lovelyboy · Oct 11, 2017

S'hampton Seagull said:
Barber has already said Tottenham were not willing to loan him to another Prem club. He is only on loan now as that was the only option Spurs had left to get rid.

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This would be an absolute extraordinary position for Spurs to take. It literally doesn't make any sense

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