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    I would have hoped we would at least threaten the opposition occasionally
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      We might get a point against Newcastle but from who else I'm not sure
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      I thought we would lose our first 3 matches , then start picking up after the international break
      I did not think we would be so negative in our play though
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      Not "expect", but I hadn't written them off as nil-pointers, and it's disappointing so many fans are so willing to give up on games before they are played.

      Last season Man City were a disappointment, dropping more points than they expected because things weren't clicking and falling out of the title challenge earlier than hoped. Our players would be up for it, they could have underestimated us. Like a lot of teams at the start of the season they had new players who may or may not have been up to it. There was every chance we could have got something if things went our way (and if we actually looked for more than just 'don't embarrass ourselves' from the result).

      Leicester may have won the title two seasons ago, but really struggled early last season. We beat them well last time we went to their place when there was a similar gap in quality between us. As a team that finished mid-table last season, they should be seen as one of the teams we'd look to get something from.

      It's great that some of our fans are so accepting of defeat, and keeping it in perspective (genuinely, I don't want our fans to be calling for the manager's head because heaven forbid we might get relegated and have to play in the championship next season!), but it is quite disheartening to see so many of our fans think we can't get anything out of so many games. We earned our spot in the premier league. We are a premier league team. We should approach every game as if it is a game from which we can get something, and not be so resigned to 0 points.
      True. If we accept there are stack of games guaranteeing nil points, that leaves an ever diminishing pool of games in which to get 10 wins and a few draws. In their recent PL seasons, I would imagine that plucky Palace, Bournemouth and Burnley have set out to win games against top 7 teams, got beaten in the main, but also come up with vital wins.
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      Starting only our second Premier League game with Glenn Murray and Jamie Murphy in the first eleven...I'm sorry but we are getting what we deserve at the minute. There seems to be a "just happy to be here" mentality at the moment, which given our history is kind of understandable. However there should be no sentiment in football. As good a job as Murray, Murphy and Stephens (to name a few) did in getting us here, it has been nothing short of naive to stick with them at this level.

      The players we have recruited so far look no better than what we already have, and in some cases actually look worse.

      The lack of creativity and pace going forward is a huge concern and I can see us scoring less goals this season than Boro managed last year.


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      We might get a point against Newcastle but from who else I'm not sure
      Burnley at home, Swansea at home, might yield points.
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      There are 12 winnable home games and we need to win at least seven of them.

      There are 12 away games against the same teams, but the fact is struggling teams in the PL simply do not win or keep many clean sheets away from home, so realistically if we can win two that would be a good result.

      I also imagine we will get a shock win somewhere against one of the top seven. That gives us ten wins, which plus a handful of draws, will keep us up.

      Based on this, we have so far not dropped a point that a team targeting 38 points would expect to get.
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      Well it hasn't played out like I imagined it when walking the dog all summer after last season. As I saw it then we would have gone down 2 goals against Man City, one goal early in each half BUT our 80th minute sub would have scored from a rebound on his debut. Then a breakaway goal from March would have levelled it. Immense pressure from City then a rushed clearance forces a corner
      Murray scores as per Brum away cue mental scenes. We draw against Leicester and thump Watford.
      So no I didn't expect anything more so far. It's going to be a long hard season like that time we got into the Championship at With dean and were imediately relegated. But I think we will scrape through this time and hang on by the skin of our teeth!
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      Yes, a point a Leicester was very do-able.
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      No. And sadly I think it'll get worse before it gets better.

      Can't look too far ahead but I expect defeat at Watford as well.

      Then we need to have worked a way to beat West Brom - which won't be easy.
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