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Rail fares increase



beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Rod Marsh said:
This is why I choose to drive to London rather than get the train. It's quicker and cheaper to drive.
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is it really, or are you missing out some costs and time? when i do the sums train beats car depreciation+insurance+fuel+parking by some margin. haven't driven much in rush hour but weekends use to take best part of 2 hours from SE1/SE16 to coast unless dead of night.
 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,300
Tom Hark said:
If the train companies don't get you, then the utility companies will, or the council tax will. Or more likely all three.
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company's costs (materials, wages, etc) increase due to inflation, so they increase their prices. due to increased prices, inflation rises. thus it ever was, in a vicious cycle, unless the economy is tanking.
 


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Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,336
Uffern
Thunder Bolt said:
Brighton council collected £29M in parking fees alone in the last year.
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£20.3m actually - a surplus of £12.69m. That can't be spent on general budget but only on transport. In fact, more than 90% goes on pensioners' bus passes. Not quite sure what your point is: are you saying that the council should put up parking charges to reduce council tax? Not sure that would be very popular
 


Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
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Gwylan said:
£20.3m actually - a surplus of £12.69m. That can't be spent on general budget but only on transport. In fact, more than 90% goes on pensioners' bus passes. Not quite sure what your point is: are you saying that the council should put up parking charges to reduce council tax? Not sure that would be very popular
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No, and it wasn't last December's figures I heard this morning. I can't find a link to back it up.
 


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Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,336
Uffern
Thunder Bolt said:
No, and it wasn't last December's figures I heard this morning. I can't find a link to back it up.
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You mean the RAC's report claiming £28.7m? They're for 2015/16, the same period that's covered in the Brighton report. The RAC's figure is estimated though, the council's own figures are going to be more accurate.

But the actual amount is irrelevant, whether the surplus is £12m or £15m, it's being used to cover statutory transport costs - which have to be met, whether through council tax or parking charges.
 




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Rod Marsh

New member
Aug 9, 2013
1,254
Sussex
beorhthelm said:
is it really, or are you missing out some costs and time? when i do the sums train beats car depreciation+insurance+fuel+parking by some margin. haven't driven much in rush hour but weekends use to take best part of 2 hours from SE1/SE16 to coast unless dead of night.
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For me it's considerably cheaper. I can park at work for free and as I work in Canary Wharf I don't have to pay the congestion charge. It's about £12 a day in diesel and 1hr 15m from Burgess Hill. My new car averages over 60mpg. A yearly train and tube ticket I believe is in the region of 5k a year now. The car blows public transport out of the water. PLus for the days I work at home i've not already paid for a train ticket. The depreciation I will suffer anyway because I need a car.
 


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