Oumar niasse

Bra · Aug 2, 2017

Not Andy Naylor said:
In my experience, the so-called Boss of Goss knows no more than the average bloke in the pub. It's my impression that TB considers the prices being asked extortionate and refuses to pay ridiculous amounts. And bear in mind that wages, bonuses etc mean that he wants to be sure that we're getting value over the full length of a player's contract.

You will get no argument from me that fees and wages are obsence and I admire our stance to a degree to not give in to these demands. But it's not a stand you can take on your own and you will struggle to compete if everyone else is meeting these demands.
I hope we can find the balance needed or it will be a long season.

Don Tmatter · Aug 2, 2017

Murray 17 said:
Completely agree. You can't survive in this division on the cheap.

It took us 6 years to get up on the cheap, could take even longer to get us back up if 4-5 of our better players decide they want to stay in the PL but elsewhere and CH has to build another team

Nixonator · Aug 2, 2017

Bra said:
You will get no argument from me that fees and wages are obsence and I admire our stance to a degree to not give in to these demands. But it's not a stand you can take on your own and you will struggle to compete if everyone else if meeting these demands.
I hope we can find the balance needed or it will be a long season.

I do find these kinds of arguments confusing and duplicitous, especially when they are coming out the club itself, that we are struggling because of the inflation in the market when the inflation in the market is in response to the new TV money, which we have been in receipt of. That said, I fully expect a couple in before we kick off.

redoubtable seagull · Aug 2, 2017

Nixonator said:
I do find these kinds of arguments confusing and duplicitous, especially when they are coming out the club itself, that we are struggling because of the inflation in the market when the inflation in the market is in response to the new TV money, which we have been in receipt of. That said, I fully expect a couple in before we kick off.

In full agreement. The market has gone bonkers, player prices and wages are astronomical but so are the amounts that clubs are trousering from the TV deal. We can't have our cake and eat it.

forumwayseagull · Aug 2, 2017

Nixonator said:
I do find these kinds of arguments confusing and duplicitous, especially when they are coming out the club itself, that we are struggling because of the inflation in the market when the inflation in the market is in response to the new TV money, which we have been in receipt of. That said, I fully expect a couple in before we kick off.

That was my point earlier.. as a club we are in a new world.. need to start living it properly to make everything worthwhile. I read about the Huddersfield chairman who said massive income enables him to get better more expensive players ( 9 totalling around 40mill) so even that is significantly less than money coming in..so why are we determined to spend as little as possible thus giving us a minimal chance of success?
( Nixon now onTwitter is saying we are now looking to spend serious money so something somewhere has to give)

chaileyjem · Aug 2, 2017

forumwayseagull said:
I what's the point in getting into the PL if you never really give it a go?

Murray 17 said:
Completely agree. You can't survive in this division on the cheap.

Bra said:
you will struggle to compete

Nixonator said:
we are struggling

forumwayseagull said:
so why are we determined to spend as little as possible thus giving us a minimal chance of success?

redoubtable seagull said:
The market has gone bonkersbut so are the amounts that clubs are trousering from the TV deal. We can't have our cake and eat it.

Where (Barber, Bloom, Hughton) have they actually said they a) aren't going to strengthen the squad further b) spend ££m in doing so ? even though they rightly point out its not easy and in the UK especially prices have got out of hand.
Every interview, report and rumour confirms it. they are looking to make 4 more signings/additions. And has done all summer.

Even though, like most other clubs , they've not managed to get it all done just yet.
(Last year we broke out transfer record on August 26th and bought one of the players of the season. )

Hughton: "We want the best [attacking] options we can"
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/15439233.Izzy_on_board_but_Albion_still_want_a_No_9/
Bloom: "We have to strengthen"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-splurge-not-looking-spend-huge-amounts.html
Barber: "We know we've got to strengthen our squad "
http://www.brightonandhoveindepende...ikely-to-go-abroad-for-new-signings-1-8079100

Bloom has turned down millions in fees for our squad , and coughed up for players, wages, eye watering new contracts and funded the debt, ground and facilities to the tune of hundreds of millions in the past 7 years yet now it appears you're arguing perversely that he's looking to save the Premier League money, and his personal fortune, up for a rainy day, not interested in giving it a go, and can't be bothered about keeping us in the Prem League. And is incredibly, seemingly naive and out of his comfort zone about whats needed to operate up there.

Why ?

Murray 17 · Aug 2, 2017

chaileyjem said:
Where (Barber, Bloom, Hughton) have they actually said they a) aren't going to strengthen the squad further b) spend ££m in doing so ? even though they rightly point out its not easy and in the UK especially prices have got out of hand.
Every interview, report and rumour confirms it. they are looking to make 4 more signings/additions. And has done all summer.

Even though, like most other clubs , they've not managed to get it all done just yet.
(Last year we broke out transfer record on August 26th and bought one of the players of the season. )

Hughton: "We want the best [attacking] options we can"
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/15439233.Izzy_on_board_but_Albion_still_want_a_No_9/
Bloom: "We have to strengthen"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-splurge-not-looking-spend-huge-amounts.html
Barber: "We know we've got to strengthen our squad "
http://www.brightonandhoveindepende...ikely-to-go-abroad-for-new-signings-1-8079100

Bloom has turned down millions in fees for our squad , and coughed up for players, wages, eye watering new contracts and funded the debt, ground and facilities to the tune of hundreds of millions in the past 7 years yet now it appears you're arguing perversely that he's looking to save the Premier League money, and his personal fortune, up for a rainy day, not interested in giving it a go, and can't be bothered about keeping us in the Prem League. And is incredibly, seemingly naive and out of his comfort zone about whats needed to operate up there.

Why ?

I was waiting to see how long it would be before you came out in defence of the club! I know you're a big fan of the way things are run [emoji1] .

On a serious note, how sure are you that we'll get those 3/4 extra players in? If you were a gambling man, would you bet say £200 on that happening? I'm not challenging you to a bet, just genuinely asking how confident you are.

chaileyjem · Aug 2, 2017

Murray 17 said:
I was waiting to see how long it would be before you came out in defence of the club! I know you're a big fan of the way things are run [emoji1] .

On a serious note, how sure are you that we'll get those 3/4 extra players in? If you were a gambling man, would you bet say £200 on that happening? I'm not challenging you to a bet, just genuinely asking how confident you are.

Yes.

Murray 17 · Aug 2, 2017

chaileyjem said:
Yes.

OK, fair enough.

graz126 · Aug 2, 2017

I would be happy with Niasse. am in.

whitelion · Aug 3, 2017

From what I've seen admittedly not a lot there is not enough to suggest this fella will cut it.

Can't stay on his feet looks awkward on the ball and can't finish - and there are calls to sign him up - there are a lot of desperate folk about.

trueblue · Aug 3, 2017

Nixonator said:
I do find these kinds of arguments confusing and duplicitous, especially when they are coming out the club itself, that we are struggling because of the inflation in the market when the inflation in the market is in response to the new TV money, which we have been in receipt of. That said, I fully expect a couple in before we kick off.

The inflation in the market is being driven by the clubs at the very top, and there's much more to their income than one season's TV money. Suddenly our 'windfall' is worth in real terms about half what it would have been a year ago.

Guinness Boy · Aug 3, 2017

chaileyjem said:
Where (Barber, Bloom, Hughton) have they actually said they a) aren't going to strengthen the squad further b) spend ££m in doing so ? even though they rightly point out its not easy and in the UK especially prices have got out of hand.
Every interview, report and rumour confirms it. they are looking to make 4 more signings/additions. And has done all summer.

Even though, like most other clubs , they've not managed to get it all done just yet.
(Last year we broke out transfer record on August 26th and bought one of the players of the season. )

Hughton: "We want the best [attacking] options we can"
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/15439233.Izzy_on_board_but_Albion_still_want_a_No_9/
Bloom: "We have to strengthen"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-splurge-not-looking-spend-huge-amounts.html
Barber: "We know we've got to strengthen our squad "
http://www.brightonandhoveindepende...ikely-to-go-abroad-for-new-signings-1-8079100

Bloom has turned down millions in fees for our squad , and coughed up for players, wages, eye watering new contracts and funded the debt, ground and facilities to the tune of hundreds of millions in the past 7 years yet now it appears you're arguing perversely that he's looking to save the Premier League money, and his personal fortune, up for a rainy day, not interested in giving it a go, and can't be bothered about keeping us in the Prem League. And is incredibly, seemingly naive and out of his comfort zone about whats needed to operate up there.

Why ?

There you go with your reasonable common sense again.

Licker :lolol:

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Bra · Aug 3, 2017

Nothing doing on this one at the moment according to Naylor. On to the next that's if we have a next.

Blue Valkyrie · Aug 3, 2017

Bra said:
Nothing doing on this one at the moment according to Naylor. On to the next that's if we have a next.

Indeed.

Naylor says No, No and No !

https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/status/892989383275679744

Not Andy Naylor · Aug 3, 2017

This whole Niasse thing feels like a classic made-up story. Who's unwanted/too expensive at their current club? Who's looking for players in that position? 2 + 2 = any number except 4.

severnside gull · Aug 3, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
Indeed.

Naylor says No, No and No !

https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/status/892989383275679744

What he actually says is "not at this stage" which is a notably careful choice of words by him when engaging with fans' speculation.

Not Andy Naylor said:
This whole Niasse thing feels like a classic made-up story. Who's unwanted/too expensive at their current club? Who's looking for players in that position? 2 + 2 = any number except 4.

Interesting that the rumour emanates from the Watford Observer.
It was thought they might take Niasse as their manager took him to Hull. Their local paper looked into it; said no deal there but "sources close to player" saying we were his probable destination. Then picked up by Everton fan sites who speculated that a loan was most likely and probably therefore nearer the end of the window.

None of it lends great credibility or probability but as a source of rumours it is slightly different to the normal "16yr old in a bedroom" dross.

Stat Brother · Aug 3, 2017

severnside gull said:
Interesting that the rumour emanates from the Watford Observer.
It was thought they might take Niasse as their manager took him to Hull. Their local paper looked into it; said no deal there but "sources close to player" saying we were his probable destination. Then picked up by Everton fan sites who speculated that a loan was most likely and probably therefore nearer the end of the window.

None of it lends great credibility or probability but as a source of rumours it is slightly different to the normal "16yr old in a bedroom" dross.

The rumour emanates from the Albion all but signing him on loan in January.

Have the Albion maintained their interest or are 'sources close to the player' using the previous interest as a way of flushing out more potential suitors.

Not Andy Naylor · Aug 3, 2017

'Sources close to the player' could mean anything. Or, more likely, nothing.

NooBHA · Aug 3, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
Indeed.

Naylor says No, No and No !

https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/status/892989383275679744

LOL - fountain of knowledge that

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