PL wins anti-piracy legal case

Weststander · Jul 26, 2017

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40727972

The Premier League has been awarded a High Court order for the forthcoming 2017-18 season, which will help it combat the illegal streaming of games.

The blocking order will require UK Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to prevent people from illegally accessing streams of its matches.

It will allow the league to combat the illicit sale and use of devices such as pre-loaded IPTV and Kodi boxes.

The Rivet · Jul 26, 2017

Weststander said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40727972

The Premier League has been awarded a High Court order for the forthcoming 2017-18 season, which will help it combat the illegal streaming of games.

The blocking order will require UK Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to prevent people from illegally accessing streams of its matches.

It will allow the league to combat the illicit sale and use of devices such as pre-loaded IPTV and Kodi boxes.

VPN

grawhite · Jul 26, 2017

The Rivet said:
VPN

That can be combatted the same way Netflix do with VPN not guaranteed at all.

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brightn'ove · Jul 26, 2017

There will always be a way

El Presidente · Jul 26, 2017

The Rivet said:
VPN

Err...ok

5ways · Jul 26, 2017

A battle they have to fight but I can't see it working.

clapham_gull · Jul 26, 2017

5ways said:
A battle they have to fight but I can't see it working.

They will relatively soon I'm afraid.

It gets easier when delivery is mostly by internet.

Invisibly watermark the video signal unique to the subscriber. If that appears somewhere it shouldn't kill the signal at source.

This technology is already in place where a copy of something appears. That's already too late. If you are monitoring a live event and you find it you cut the source.

It's 100% easier with social media because people talk. Go the link, decode the watermark and cut off the stream.

It's one the reason the distributors are moving away from satellite.

Bozza · Jul 26, 2017

This whole area is something I'm frankly a little bit worried about, as it's clear the rights owners are really stepping up their game after a few years of easy street for the streamers.

Not with me watching dodgy feeds, but with it streams being discussed and linked to on NSC which could spell big trouble for either the person circulating the link and/or NSC (me) itself. In all likelihood, I'll have to respectfully ask that people keep that stuff off of here.

The Rivet · Jul 26, 2017

Bozza said:
This whole area is something I'm frankly a little bit worried about, as it's clear the rights owners are really stepping up their game after a few years of easy street for the streamers.

Not with me watching dodgy feeds, but with it streams being discussed and linked to on NSC which could spell big trouble for either the person circulating the link and/or NSC (me) itself. In all likelihood, I'll have to respectfully ask that people keep that stuff off of here.

You are correct, of course.

Ernest · Jul 26, 2017

Bozza said:
This whole area is something I'm frankly a little bit worried about, as it's clear the rights owners are really stepping up their game after a few years of easy street for the streamers.

Not with me watching dodgy feeds, but with it streams being discussed and linked to on NSC which could spell big trouble for either the person circulating the link and/or NSC (me) itself. In all likelihood, I'll have to respectfully ask that people keep that stuff off of here.

A lot of boards for sports like boxing insist any talk of streams for PPV's etc is kept to PM's and ban any direct talk of them on any thread

Don Tmatter · Jul 27, 2017

So we best not post a thread asking for Leicester & Watford streams then?

Weststander · Jul 27, 2017

This link should work. If not, at least you'll be first to find out the results:

BBassic · Jul 27, 2017

This place really needs some sort of NWS thing for images. Twice today I've gone into threads and had a picture flash up I don't really want to see whilst at work.

Of course it could be argued I shouldn't be on here whilst at work but you try doing my job for ten minutes without succumbing to the crushing boredom.

Official Old Man · Jul 27, 2017

So, rather than cut off all illegal feeds, why not go down another route?
Sky & BT are expensive, no ifs or buts, just expensive. Why not sell the matches individually at a decent price (I know about NOW TV) but I mean decent price.
Start with each clubs TV station (Seagulls TV in our case). £40 for every game radio coms. £60 to include away games TV coverage. £120 for every PL game all teams except your own home games.
Look at music and the pirates. Home taping and all that. Now millions pay £10 month for unlimited music.
Give us something at a decent price and people will pay.

GOM · Jul 27, 2017

clapham_gull said:
They will relatively soon I'm afraid.

It gets easier when delivery is mostly by internet.

Invisibly watermark the video signal unique to the subscriber. If that appears somewhere it shouldn't kill the signal at source.

This technology is already in place where a copy of something appears. That's already too late. If you are monitoring a live event and you find it you cut the source.

It's 100% easier with social media because people talk. Go the link, decode the watermark and cut off the stream.

It's one the reason the distributors are moving away from satellite.

It's not usually an individuals feed that is used. The feed is intercepted prior to it going anywhere near a consumer. Sky already do that sort of thing when you see numbers flash up in the corner of a transmission.

SteveTheSeagull · Jul 27, 2017

Do we live in a first world country of North Korea? Our government act like a dictatorship sometimes telling us what we can and can't do

dwayne · Jul 27, 2017

clapham_gull said:
They will relatively soon I'm afraid.

It gets easier when delivery is mostly by internet.

Invisibly watermark the video signal unique to the subscriber. If that appears somewhere it shouldn't kill the signal at source.

This technology is already in place where a copy of something appears. That's already too late. If you are monitoring a live event and you find it you cut the source.

It's 100% easier with social media because people talk. Go the link, decode the watermark and cut off the stream.

It's one the reason the distributors are moving away from satellite.

I'm not so sure. I'm not fussed about sky or bt as I have all the sports channels. If I was to use kodi and I'm not saying I do (!) It would be to get the games that are not on sky or BT ie the games on worldwide TV .

I suspect it would be too onerous and complicated to police every other countries channels.

est.83 · Jul 27, 2017

I remember the good times said:
So, rather than cut off all illegal feeds, why not go down another route?
Sky & BT are expensive, no ifs or buts, just expensive. Why not sell the matches individually at a decent price (I know about NOW TV) but I mean decent price.
Start with each clubs TV station (Seagulls TV in our case). £40 for every game radio coms. £60 to include away games TV coverage. £120 for every PL game all teams except your own home games.
Look at music and the pirates. Home taping and all that. Now millions pay £10 month for unlimited music.
Give us something at a decent price and people will pay.

So that's basically what they do in the States. I have subscribed to NBA League Pass for years now and that's brilliant.

For me there is no possibility to see all Brighton games legally as I do not live in UK. I would be happy to pay for the service.

Weststander · Jul 27, 2017

SteveTheSeagull said:
Do we live in a first world country of North Korea? Our government act like a dictatorship sometimes telling us what we can and can't do

The independent judiciary decided.

Without any protection for the PL and broadcasters, the whole thing would collapse. Which ultimately would be a blow for players and agents.

martin tyler · Jul 27, 2017

These are the same laws that were in place at the end of last season?
If so they will work to an extent but if you really want to find a match and watch it on your computer you can and will be able to. Can't see them coming after individuals more on companies who stream the illegal games or those advertising the links (NSC should be aware). What there after is shutting as many loop holes as they can. Unfortunately for them they have no way of shutting down everything and there will always be a way

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