What will prove harder PL survival or gaining promotion from championship?

Doc Lynam · Jul 13, 2017

Like for like given the much more restricted budget and lower club profile last season, compare that to this season, more money and higher profile. What do you feel will prove to be the harder challenge, PL survival or gaining promotion from the championship?

stewart_weir · Jul 13, 2017

At least in the championship we were a bigger fish. Lower mid table obscurity will be a huge result for us however I think the bed wetters will freak with anything less than a top 3 position.. If we survive this season then expect us to find it easier to attract players next season thats for sure.

Justice · Jul 13, 2017

stewart_weir said:
At least in the championship we were a bigger fish. Lower mid table obscurity will be a huge result for us however I think the bed wetters will freak with anything less than a top 3 position.. If we survive this season then expect us to find it easier to attract players next season thats for sure.

Top 3

even the complete mattress soakers surely wouldn't expect that

Perkino · Jul 13, 2017

It took us 6 attempts to gain promotion from the Championship, hopefully we can gain Premiership survival before the 6th attempt

Rugrat · Jul 13, 2017

Getting promoted.

I'd say there are as many as 17 teams in the Champ that will start the season looking to get in play offs or better, vs 13 in the Prem who will start with the objective of avoiding relegation.

So a case of 3/17 (18%) vs 10/13 (77%) to achieve the goal ... a simplistic view but feels about right.

Only exception perhaps is that the 17 will reduce fairly quickly in the last third of season whereas the 13 probably won't

BBassic · Jul 13, 2017

I think survival in this first season will be as hard as it was to get out of the Championship but, if we succeed, it'll get slightly less difficult each time.

Notters · Jul 13, 2017

Justice said:
Top 3 even the complete mattress soakers surely wouldn't expect that

A lot of our fans bitch and moan when we lose, whoever the opposition. I don't expect this season to be any different sadly.

Doc Lynam · Jul 13, 2017

Rugrat said:
Getting promoted.

I'd say there are as many as 17 teams in the Champ that will start the season looking to get in play offs or better, vs 13 in the Prem who will start with the objective of avoiding relegation.

So a case of 3/17 (18%) vs 10/13 (77%) to achieve the goal ... a simplistic view but feels about right.

Only exception perhaps is that the 17 will reduce fairly quickly in the last third of season whereas the 13 probably won't

I'm leaning the same way, everyman and his dog is trying to buy their way out of the champ!

perseus · Jul 13, 2017

Relegation calculator:

http://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

GT49er · Jul 13, 2017

BBassic said:
I think survival in this first season will be as hard as it was to get out of the Championship but, if we succeed, it'll get slightly less difficult each time.

Second season syndrome...........................

GT49er · Jul 13, 2017

Rugrat said:
Getting promoted.

I'd say there are as many as 17 teams in the Champ that will start the season looking to get in play offs or better, vs 13 in the Prem who will start with the objective of avoiding relegation.

So a case of 3/17 (18%) vs 10/13 (77%) to achieve the goal ... a simplistic view but feels about right.

Only exception perhaps is that the 17 will reduce fairly quickly in the last third of season whereas the 13 probably won't

Thinking along the same lines myself. 17 teams out of 20 will avoid the drop, but only three out of 24 will get promoted.

lizard · Jul 13, 2017

We only have to finish forth bottom. If Burnley could stay up last season, there's no reason we can't.

Lush · Jul 13, 2017

Poll?

Brovion · Jul 13, 2017

stewart_weir said:
At least in the championship we were a bigger fish. Lower mid table obscurity will be a huge result for us however I think the bed wetters will freak with anything less than a top 3 position.. If we survive this season then expect us to find it easier to attract players next season thats for sure.

This season - no. Not even the people with mattresses stained all shades of yellow and rusty bed springs are expecting a top three finish this season.

IF we survive for a couple of years though ...

Tom Hark Preston Park · Jul 13, 2017

Doc Lynam said:
Like for like given the much more restricted budget and lower club profile last season, compare that to this season, more money and higher profile. What do you feel will prove to be the harder challenge, PL survival or gaining promotion from the championship?

Half the teams in the Prem are piss-poor fall-guys just hanging on in there for the gravy train. Will be genuinely disappointed if we don't finish top ten.

Pavilionaire · Jul 13, 2017

It's impossible to tell right now, but in the last two seasons we've managed to finish above plenty of teams with more money and better resourced than us, which is effectively what we've got to do again.

Is finishing above Huddersfield, Burnley and Watford more of a challenge than finishing above Newcastle, Norwich and Villa looked this time last season? I'd say the challenge was of similar difficulty.

Nixonator · Jul 13, 2017

Survival in the first season will be harder I think, and more critical.

Yes there are some poor sides up there and we should be able to match/exceed their points totals, but mentality plays a huge part and most of our players are used to winning.

I guess i'm saying CH has a tough job managing expectations and the lows we may encounter along the way. I'm confident he will.

DavidRyder · Jul 13, 2017

perseus said:
Relegation calculator:

http://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

I haven't got time to fill it all in, but here's my prediction after 6 games

warmleyseagull · Jul 13, 2017

One or the other. Daft question.

SeagullDubai · Jul 13, 2017

Last year we were on a roller coaster. There were several occasions when we were second best but managed to sneak a win. When we did lose it was thoroughly deserved. When we lost most supporters, if not all, felt that on these occasions (Huddersfield, Norwich stand out) many of the players gave poor performances.

If we are going to stay up we need to see far more consistency in our play, week in and week out and more importantly after the international breaks. Given the comments that CH made after each match last season (win or lose), he is very aware of this. Important we get a few early wins under our belt and are not planted firmly at the foot of the table come November.

Nerves will play a big art of this and while we get used to the frantic pace of the premier division I would be happy see a couple of boring draws in our first few game while we find our feet. Opposing players will be fitter, faster and better equipped to take advantage of defensive errors.

By writing this I have taken the first step to being the bag of nerves that I had been prior to the Wigan game

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