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    Blimey they must be delivering class 'A' drugs..........
    Well, the Tunbridge Wells Deliveroo drivers 'base' is the Great Hall Car Park by Calverly Grounds. In the bay opposite there are nearly always a couple of guys out of their head on something or another. Perhaps you are on to something.


    Joking aside, it's starting to get ridiculous how many of these 'companies' there are that don't have real employees. As mentioned above, they are just dodging a massive amount of cost and exposing the worker to all of the risks. As well as shafting the workers, it's also giving them an unfair advantage to 'proper' companies.

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      Joking aside, it's starting to get ridiculous how many of these 'companies' there are that don't have real employees. As mentioned above, they are just dodging a massive amount of cost and exposing the worker to all of the risks. As well as shafting the workers, it's also giving them an unfair advantage to 'proper' companies.
      what exactly are "these companies"? seems to me a broad brush being applied to a range of different businesses, while overlooking the long established practices they are replicating, which apparently no one notices or objects to.
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      Just opened some kitchen sort of place in Olive Road, Hove. Lots of workers and extractor fans. You can order food from Moshimo, Chilli Pickle, Gourmet Burger Kitchen. How does it work?
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      Well, the Tunbridge Wells Deliveroo drivers 'base' is the Great Hall Car Park by Calverly Grounds. In the bay opposite there are nearly always a couple of guys out of their head on something or another. Perhaps you are on to something.


      Joking aside, it's starting to get ridiculous how many of these 'companies' there are that don't have real employees. As mentioned above, they are just dodging a massive amount of cost and exposing the worker to all of the risks. As well as shafting the workers, it's also giving them an unfair advantage to 'proper' companies.
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      what exactly are "these companies"? seems to me a broad brush being applied to a range of different businesses, while overlooking the long established practices they are replicating, which apparently no one notices or objects to.
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      what exactly are "these companies"? seems to me a broad brush being applied to a range of different businesses, while overlooking the long established practices they are replicating, which apparently no one notices or objects to.
      I'm referring to companies like Deliveroo and Uber, who don't actually employ many people. I accept that you perform work by choice, but the fact is that all of these people need to ensure they are properly insured and are paying the appropriate taxes. Obviously they are never referred to as 'workers', since they don't work for Deliveroo. They are 'riders' or 'independent suppliers'. They don't wear a uniform (which they have to buy of course). They wear 'branded clothing. They don't have holidays, they simply inform their customer (Deliveroo) of their 'schedule of unavailability'.

      I'm sure many are happy to get fit whilst making money, so it's all fair enough in a way. They (along with Uber) are providing a service to end users and enabling some people to make a bit of cash. But since they are a middle-man and taking a cut, it tends to be at the expense of someone else.
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      Slaveroo, indeed. I get all that but will have to chat to the staff at Olive Road to find out what's happening inside. I don't think the food is collected from the restaurants but is stored chilled and then heated inside the Saxon works depot before being sent out. Ready meals, perhaps?
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      I'm referring to companies like Deliveroo and Uber, who don't actually employ many people.
      the question is why you aren't referring to the existing businesses that do this, the kebab shop with casual delivery driver or the cabbies renting a car/radio to anyone with a drivers license. why does an objection only get raised when its a large, high profile company. all those smaller businesses should be employing their staff and paying taxes properly too, some reason this doesn't get mentioned.
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      Slaveroo, indeed. I get all that but will have to chat to the staff at Olive Road to find out what's happening inside. I don't think the food is collected from the restaurants but is stored chilled and then heated inside the Saxon works depot before being sent out. Ready meals, perhaps?
      Chilli Pickle have a totally different kitchen for their Deliveroo/Takeaway offerings at their central Brighton location, than they do for their stuff going in to the restaurant proper. I thought this new location would actually have a kitchen tbh.
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      Slaveroo, indeed. I get all that but will have to chat to the staff at Olive Road to find out what's happening inside. I don't think the food is collected from the restaurants but is stored chilled and then heated inside the Saxon works depot before being sent out. Ready meals, perhaps?
      I had assumed that Deliveroo was a Brighton-only version of the likes of Just Eat and Hungry House, since I'd only ever seen the riders around Brighton and, as others have said, aren't there a load of them?

      This thread had me look a bit deeper and they are in other places too. I've never used one of these services. It's not often we get a takeaway but if we do I just go and get it myself. Our Indian of choice is a short walk away and the Thai we like is about a 10-minute drive. Maybe that would be different if Worthing had the variety of choice that Brighton does, but I doubt it.

      By all accounts these delivery services take a fair cut of the food order from the restaurant/takeaway who find they have little choice but to be on these platforms as they miss out if they're not. A bit of a horrible catch-22 that's only going to get better if people understand that using these services could be putting their favourite eatery at risk.

      It would strike me as strange that Deliveroo had their own kitchen cooking/heating food under the name of other restaurants. Another reason to avoid, surely?
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