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    Yesterday me and a mate took a few beers to Swanbourne Lake (Arundel ) for an afternoon on the hills surrounding the lake. After walking up the big hill that overlooks the whole lake we were greeted with almost the entire hill covered in Mc Donalds cartons, plastic bottles, beer bottles/cans, spent fireworks and used disposable BBQ's. It amazes me how shit people have become in their attitudes

    We ended up spending 1/2 hour clearing it all up (in carrier bags they kindly left behind)

    Really sad how inconsiderate society has become regarding nature and overall empathy for the environment and others...
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      Yesterday me and a mate took a few beers to Swanbourne (Arundel ) for a chilled day up on the glorious hills. After walking up the big hill that overlooks the lake we were greeted with the entire hill covered in Mc Donalds cartons, plastic bottles, beer bottles/cans, spent fireworks and used disposable BBQ's. It amazes me how shit people have become in their attitudes

      We ended up spending 1/2 hour clearing it all up (in carrier bags they kindly)

      Really sad how inconsiderate society has become regarding nature and overall empathy for the environment and others...
      Rarely happens here. I've been to outdoor firework displays with crowds over 100,000 people drinking and eating stall food out of plastic containers. 99% put their rubbish in a plastic bag, tie it off and take it home to be disposed of in the proper manner. I don't know if this is something that can be taught in schools or if the Westerner's disrespect for others or the environment is an ingrained part of Western culture.

      It's kinda weird really.
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      I have lived in Arundel for over 30 years and never seen anything like what I saw yesterday. It's certainly a statement on how ignorant and arrogant people have become.
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      This reminded me of this back in the last WC........

      https://www.rt.com/news/167408-japan...aning-stadium/
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      This reminded me of this back in the last WC........

      https://www.rt.com/news/167408-japan...aning-stadium/
      Have to have respect for the Japanese people in that regard. They certainly show China how they should conduct themselves...
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      This reminded me of this back in the last WC........

      https://www.rt.com/news/167408-japan...aning-stadium/
      Wow! That is truly wonderful.

      I think the contrast between east and west is that the concept between individualism and society is so different in our respective cultures.
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      Rarely happens here. I've been to outdoor firework displays with crowds over 100,000 people drinking and eating stall food out of plastic containers. 99% put their rubbish in a plastic bag, tie it off and take it home to be disposed of in the proper manner. I don't know if this is something that can be taught in schools or if the Westerner's disrespect for others or the environment is an ingrained part of Western culture.

      It's kinda weird really.
      I wouldn't say it's a western thing, it's an educational thing. In the parts of Asia & South America I've been to they dont think twice about littering.

      Japan is a different kettle of fish as you well know.
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      Yesterday me and a mate took a few beers to Swanbourne Lake (Arundel ) for an afternoon on the hills surrounding the lake. After walking up the big hill that overlooks the whole lake we were greeted with almost the entire hill covered in Mc Donalds cartons, plastic bottles, beer bottles/cans, spent fireworks and used disposable BBQ's. It amazes me how shit people have become in their attitudes

      We ended up spending 1/2 hour clearing it all up (in carrier bags they kindly left behind)

      Really sad how inconsiderate society has become regarding nature and overall empathy for the environment and others...
      I share your feelings on this. I've never littered.

      That selfishness is a reflection of the personalities doing it. Anti social and illegal behaviour = a scummy person.

      But I would say that this has always gone on and that the majority of people do behave well.
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      Yesterday me and a mate took a few beers to Swanbourne Lake (Arundel ) for an afternoon on the hills surrounding the lake. After walking up the big hill that overlooks the whole lake we were greeted with almost the entire hill covered in Mc Donalds cartons, plastic bottles, beer bottles/cans, spent fireworks and used disposable BBQ's. It amazes me how shit people have become in their attitudes

      We ended up spending 1/2 hour clearing it all up (in carrier bags they kindly left behind)

      Really sad how inconsiderate society has become regarding nature and overall empathy for the environment and others...
      Like the pics emerging from Glasto aftermath recently... a society... or is it a generation that assumes that someone will deal with it for them.... my love for our nation and it's future is at an all time low.

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      In Britain, we live in the throwaway society. The attitutude prevails that it doesn't matter what is chucked on the ground, somebody will be paid to come along and clean it up. In towns and cities, you can place as many litter bins as you like, they will just be ignored. Between each one will be an assorted trail of detritus. People walk along the street, eating a takeaway and then calmly chuck the container and the half eaten remains on the pavement. In cars, they will chuck litter out the window, empty out ashtrays, whilst stationery, or simply flick the burning remains of a cigarette, out of the car window, onto a dry verge and reduce tens of acres of heathland to charred ashes. Individuals come out of shops, having purchased a packet of cigarettes, immediately tear off the plastic wrapper and throw it on the ground. Later on it will be the fag end or chewing gum. It doesn't really matter. No one gives a damn. They don't have to clean it up.
      More and more wildlife is now attracted to urban areas, to feast on the mountains of discarded fast food. There are more seagulls inland now than at the seaside. Foxes abound everywhere. Its like an all day every day picnic. Our country lanes and quiet areas are festooned with fly-tipping. Out for a quiet drive, you suddenly come across a fridge, a dozen assorted tyres and half a flat pack kitchen. You go to any outside event and the whole area is covered in discarded rubbish. Barely a soul bothers to clear up. Staff and volunteers spend hours clearing up. Hand on heart, how many of us leave cups and containers, under our seats, at football. Loads of us because we can't be obothered to find a bin to put them in. We are all as guilty as each other. We know the club will clean up after us.
      I'm all for litter patrols and on the spot fines. I'm all for more emphasis at school level. We should be proud of our country and its surrounds and not treat it like a rubbish heap. Society has become more self-centred, more indolent. Why go to a litter bin, when you can just drop it on the ground with no sense of guilt or responsibility
      When my children were young, I made them aware of litter. We would pick it up and take it to the nearest bin. As young adults now, I know they don't casually discard rubbish. It can be done but it has to start in the home. Kids have to be told that you treat the outside as you would your home. If you wouldn't dream of stubbing a fag out on the lounge carpet, then don't do it in the street. All your rubbish is binned up at home, why is it casually discarded away from home. Why should it be any different. Its all about a change of mindset.

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