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Simster said:

Not this again. You have absolutely NO IDEA what she generates, none of us do. Secondly, even if it were true, it comes at a cost of true democracy.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

You can tell the true ****wits on a thread, when they answer their own posts, with their own points further down the same thread. I love reading the lefties posts. Some of them are so thick and blinkered its hilarious!!!

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

True democracy. What does that mean I'm a bit of a thickie see. Is that where someone who comes in second in an election has his supporters trying to overthrow the party who won most seats and got most votes. Or it is only worth mentioning democracy when its suits our own needs.

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Simster said:

It's hard to know where to begin with your tiresome nonsense. Just as it seems you couldn't be thicker than already proven, you go and surpass yourself. Firstly, I'm not a "lefty" - I'm slightly left of centre. You can tar me with a liberal brush if you like, but I wouldn't ever vote for 90% taxes. I just don't so see blatant injustice, which is exactly what this is.

Secondly, I don't know exactly what the Brexit bill will be because it is yet to be negotiated, but regardless I don't need to in order to make my point because I do know it will be in the magnitude of billions in the short term - even the pro-Brexit people on here would admit that. Not you though, as you're clearly a simpleton. My point being that we have absolutely loads to pay for, so why are giving a huge pay increase to the one of the nation's biggest spongers?

FFS, there you go again. I'm not a pro Corbyn lefty you thick tit.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

I'm a bit of a thickie.

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crodonilson said:

Well deserved payrise for the Queen



8% or £6m increase this year for her hard work.

Head of the Privy Purse said the Queen was 'excellent value for money'.

"When you look at these accounts, the bottom line is the Sovereign Grant last year equated to 65p per person, per annum, in the United Kingdom.

"That's the price of a first class stamp.

"Consider that against what the Queen does and represents for this country, I believe it represents excellent value for money. In fact I would argue she deserves far more but the selfless lady she is she would not accept anything more than she gets."

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

We should send her to the tower, and lob of her head, and use Buckingham Palace for immigrants.

Send May and the tories there, and put JC in charge.

Obviously the money we lose from tourists and her estate, we could cover by putting up corporation tax!

Oh wait, putting up corporation tax doesn't increase revenue it decreases it, so to cover that we could put up the top rate of income tax for anyone earning over one million.

Oh Wait, they'll just leave the country and pay taxes elsewhere or use tax avoidance scheme set up by Labour like the one Linekar used, so the money we lose from that we can raise by the introduction a new wealth tax, and any with over hundred grand in their account or house, we will make a one of tax of 50% for that.

Oh wait, everything will crash, so we can raise the money by borrowing it of China.

Oh wait, we will be in so much debt that the Chinese will call in the loans, we will lose our triple A rating, the pound will become worthless, inflation will be rampant, there will be more unemployed than employed, and the country will be in ruins, but at least immigration will go down, and they'll all go elsewhere for work.....

Oh wait, we will be in the shit then with no where to turn, but never mind we can have a general election and the Tories will win it, and we can all blame those wankers for cutting services and borrowing more than we ever have done before!!! Scummy bloody Tories.

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rippleman said:

Personally, without interviewing every tourist, I don't see how you would know whether visitors are inspired to come here because of our rich history, our architecture, our museums, our glorious countryside...........and how many come because we have the Queen.

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But if you can prove that the Royal Family are earning more than they cost, I will have to think again.

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But aside from that point, I think it is disgraceful that we give the Queen an 8% pay rise and 1% (if that) to our nurses.

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Coalburner said:

So, we get rid of the monarchy and get what in its place. An elected President to represent us worldwide. And who do we elect Corbyn, May, Blair,? Would you seriously want someone of that ilk as our head of State.? God forbid. We only need to look at the USA to see what happens - Nixon, Clinton, Dubya Bush, Trump.

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Carrot Cruncher said:

By 'true democracy', I take you mean an elected head of State?

**** that, I wouldn't trust the vast majority of this country to wipe its own arse, let alone vote for a president.

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beorhthelm said:

not remotely one of the largest landowners (though the Monarch holds vast amounts of land across Canada and other countries).
its not personal wealth, its used to pay for the running of the monarchy (palaces, state occasions so on).
it is unfortunate timing, alas this is when the Crown Estate accounts are released.

we need to understand the difference between the person and the role of head of state.

and it would be a good gesture to spend on the Grenfell victims, though the running count for them must be over £30m, they dont need money they need housing.

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Carrot Cruncher said:

By 'true democracy', I take you mean an elected head of State?

**** that, I wouldn't trust the vast majority of this country to wipe its own arse, let alone vote for a president.

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Simster said:

Actually, I meant that the royal family in it's entirety is completely unaccountable. Imagine Prince Andrew mowed down a pedestrian at 90mph in his car? Do you honestly believe he'd be put away? Or would it all be covered up? That's the non-financial cost of an un-elected head of state.

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Spiros said:

But if the Russian ambassador mowed down a pedestrian at 90mph he wouldn't be put away either. Or do you think we should also get shot of diplomatic immunity?

The 'pay rise' is not just extra disposable income for the queen to spunk as she likes, it's to pay for additional repairs/upkeep on the crown estate, such as Buck House. The Queen doesn't own it she just looks after it.

Hard as it may be to believe some countries that like to trade with Britain feel more positively towards making agreements to buy stuff from our big countries when we send senior members of the royal family to trade meetings and the like. It's a foreigners'' ego thing but it seems to work. We're going to need all of the 'UK sales team' available once we're out of the EU in order to get more non-EU sales to replace the EU ones we lose.

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Uncle Buck said:

I know lets have a referendum on the matter, as those always go well.....

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Uncle Buck said:

I know lets have a referendum on the matter, as those always go well.....

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Spiros said:

But if the Russian ambassador mowed down a pedestrian at 90mph he wouldn't be put away either. Or do you think we should also get shot of diplomatic immunity?

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